I agree about spreading too thin. I use MySpace for my music project and 
the signal to noise ratio is very, very high.
if people with dial-up think a small attached JPG bogs down their 
connection, just try pulling up a myspace page with
multiple animated ad banners. I think it makes sense to identify the 
reason for expanding and maximize that choice(s). it
mostly sounds like folks (who have broadband) would like an option for 
seeing replies with images embedded. this CAN be
done within MySpace. but it would mean that we would need to migrate our 
discussions from Sciart to make it convienent.
otherwise it is just another URL to past in our sciart messages. perhaps 
people who do not have a website and want to
post an image for the group might want to take advantage of services 
like Photobucket, where one can upload an image
and are given a URL to paste into their message.

I can see one question that's worth asking again. who on the list only 
has web access via dial-up and still wishes that the group
not embed images within their sciart messages? of those who answer yes, 
what e-mail program/browser do you use?

it is my suspicion that it will be easy enuf to tutor a handful of dial 
ups how to filter images out of messages. this done, we could
reinstitute the pasting of images within messages here on sciart.

a reference in wiki would be excellent. much of what could be said about 
our field in general and GNSI specifically has already been
written to good effect. what are the rights issues with quoting Elaine's 
intro from the Handbook or the GNSI site's description of itself?

PS not to worry bruce, unless you sign on under the description of a "16 
y/o lonely lad seeking soulmate" you'll be fine with the local vice.

-frank

>Hi Peter,
>
> 
>
>Although I probably am one of the most digitalized members on the listserv,
>I am very careful with getting too much sites to spread our efforts on. We
>could do that, but then we need a plan and volunteers than manage the
>different sites in a way that it stays consistent with our goals. I have to
>say that I do use almost all the sites you mention, but it can change
>quickly into a mess (which is pronounced differently then “mesh”…) if you
>are not careful. Keep in mind that all those sites are tools to get a job
>done, not the goal itself.
>
> 
>
>For example: I use del.icio.us as a tool for workshops I give. It is great
>to collect websites that I use as a reference and you can set up an account
>for each workshop if you want. So for that tool I have a specific use. But..
>I am also thinking of making wiki linked to my website, but to do that right
>is a lot of work and the added value is really not very clear from what I
>already have. So that is a dream that will probably stay a dream.
>
> 
>
>Mieke
>
>   _____  
>
>From: SciArt-L Discussion List-for Natural Science Illustration-
>[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of peter green
>Sent: zondag 3 augustus 2008 19:26
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: [SCIART] Facebook and MySpace and other 2.0 tools
>
> 
>
>In addition to Facebook, there are quite a few "2.0" possibilities, many of
>them FREE.
>
>For networking/info sharing:
>-create an online GNSI network: HYPERLINK "http://www.ning.com"
>\nhttp://www.ning.com
>-set up a GNSI wiki (e.g. HYPERLINK "http://pbwiki.com"http://pbwiki.com)
>-etc.
>
>For exposure: 
>-tag each others' sites on HYPERLINK "http://del.icio.us"del.icio.us and
>other popular social bookmarking services (using similar tags, like
>"scienceillustration", "gnsi", etc.)
>-set up a GNSI Flickr account  
>-interlink personal web sites and blogs, and link to HYPERLINK
>"http://sci-art.com"sci-art.com from personal sites, Facebook profiles, etc.
>
>
>Peter
>
>
>
>On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 12:46 AM, Britt Griswold <HYPERLINK
>"mailto:[log in to unmask]" \[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>I'm game, especially since we can't send images to this list.
>
>Britt
>
>_________________
>
>
>Anyone have an objection to me starting a MySpace and Facebook page
>for the group?  Stick our toes into the water so to speak?  The
>passwords and logins will be made available to anyone in the group to
>add pictures from your computers or cells and honestly, it could be
>fun if even a few people contribute.
>
>Chuck
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