Doesn't it depend on the server? I participate in a list serve on  
ICORS and it's not publicly accessed. None of it comes up on Google,  
unlike the Sci-Art  conversations...

Still, I suppose it could be worse. Very annoying about the new  
Facebook terms of service.... grrrrrrr....

Kathy


On Feb 17, 2009, at 9:39 PM, Bruce Bartrug wrote:

> As it has always been:  what one whispers to a friend is  
> immediately heard by everyone in the world.
>
> The realization surprised me.  Like, why didn't I know this and  
> protect myself.  Which is a bit strange, because I'm forever the  
> one encouraging people to try to get beyond their paranoia and  
> preconceptions about other cultures and places and just trust.  and  
> just go and visit.
>
> That said, however, you're not answering my question.  Is it really  
> necessary to disburse the conversation on the listserve to every  
> galaxy in the universe?
>
> b
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Frank Ippolito <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> indeed bruce. joan is right. if there is any safeguards are  
> available to make us more private - it tends only to work against  
> ourselves. the ones who know how to go on a fishing expedition are  
> way ahead of us. there will be a ghost of this message I type on at  
> least a dozen servers within a few hours after I hit send. only a  
> few less if it was a "private" message.
>
> -frank
>
>
> Joan Lee wrote:
>>
>> I have come to the conclusion, "if it is posted, it is public." Joan
>>
>> On Feb 17, 2009, at 8:46 PM, Bruce Bartrug wrote:
>>
>>> I just received notice from an online storage facility I use  
>>> (box.net) that items have been downloaded from my account by  
>>> those to whom the urls weren't sent.  Since these include my own  
>>> photographs and sketches and since they were only sent to the  
>>> GNSI listserve, I want to open a discussion about the  
>>> advisability of having list discussions become public property on  
>>> the web.  I don't see the usefulness of this, as the discussions  
>>> are archived.  It also puts a lot of clutter around one's name in  
>>> Google, when there's already too much clutter to begin with.
>>>
>>> Regardless of the outcome of this discussion, I'm certainly not  
>>> going to forward urls anymore without breaking the link a day or  
>>> two later.  And it does make me wonder if a skilled individual  
>>> could gain access to other records I have on box.net once into my  
>>> account.  Like the copy of my passport, driver's license, and  
>>> credit cards that I keep there to access only in the event any of  
>>> these are stolen while I'm traveling.  Probably not much chance,  
>>> but one never knows.  It does, however, prompt this requrest for  
>>> further discussion.
>>>
>>> Bruce
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Bruce Bartrug
>>> Nobleboro, Maine, USA
>>> [log in to unmask]
>>> www.brucebartrug.com
>>>
>>> The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil,  
>>> but because of those who look on and do nothing.  - Albert Einstein
>>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Bruce Bartrug
> Nobleboro, Maine, USA
> [log in to unmask]
> www.brucebartrug.com
>
> The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil,  
> but because of those who look on and do nothing.  - Albert Einstein


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