Me too.

Barry

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> From: SciArt-L Discussion List-for Natural Science
> Illustration- [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Joan Lee
> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 12:26 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [SCIART] Stippling.....
>
> We all know that the marketplace demands that we keep up with
> technology to survive economically.
>
> That said, I am an "artosaurus" now, and by choice. What I
> prefer about the "old fashioned" hand done art is exactly
> what has always appealed to me about it. It isn't just the
> visual (design, color, line, etc.). I also love the texture,
> the feel of different papers and grounds. I love the smell of
> many of the mediums. I love the tactile sense, both visually
> and through touch, of different surfaces. I love the way my
> arm uses a brush, the feel of my chisel moving through wood
> that smells interesting. All that makes my studio a place of
> magic for me--stinky & messy for others, no doubt. None of
> that is the least bit necessary for art for the marketplace.
> Viva both!  Joan
>
>
> On Jun 25, 2007, at 9:23 AM, Mieke Roth wrote:
>
> >
> > Absolutely! I love to work with old fashion pen and ink and
> the result
> > of that work is more than rewarding to do see. But: due to my
> > background and interest I am also following the future developments
> > within the IT and I noticed that computer applications are more and
> > more mimicking the old crafts. Think of the refinement of the
> > recognition of handwriting that is really getting interesting, but
> > also the fact that companies see the benefits of touch screens and
> > pressure sensitive devises. Those techniques are already available,
> > but the possibilities will expand tenfold in the next years.
> >
> > I think that within 3-5 years we will be able to work on digital
> > sketchbooks that have the size of an A4 (or any size we
> want) and the
> > weight (or even lighter) of a normal sketchbook.  And such a
> > sketchbook doesn’t have to be connected to an other
> computer to work,
> > like my Wacom Cintiq right now, so it feels as if you
> aren’t working
> > digitally but completely analogue. I am looking forward to it! Last
> > weekend I received my copy of the Guild Handbook (in recent years I
> > borrowed a copy from the museum library and I missed having
> one of my
> > own) and I saw the underwater sketchbook Trudy Nicholson designed…
> > maybe in a few years that will be possible digitally!
> >
> > We will be able to integrate the benefits of both worlds
> more and more
> > and I think that that is only a good thing.
> >
> > Mieke
> >
> >
> > From: SciArt-L Discussion List-for Natural Science Illustration-
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bruce Bartrug
> > Sent: maandag 25 juni 2007 13:03
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: [SCIART] Stippling.....
> >
> >
> > PS:  Handmade art work is never going to become extinct.
> For the same
> > reason people still practice for years to learn to play a violin.
> > Instead of just producing violin sounds on a synthesizer.  Too,
> > traditional approaches to any artform are often a matter of
> > preference.  I have a friend who doesn't like Photoshopped
> photographs
> > because they don't look like the original slide or print.
> I have to
> > remind him that the photographic process also changes the
> look of the
> > original subject, but he's completely unimpressed with that
> > explanation.
> >  b
> > On 6/25/07, Bruce Bartrug <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > You're right, Mieke.  Tools are just that:  ways of putting
> on paper
> > (or digital CDs) the image one has in his mind.  And I
> think most use
> > a mixture.  Some things are more quickly and easily done
> manually, but
> > the advantage of Photoshop is that changes can be made
> comparatively
> > quickly.  A change in an ink drawing or watercolor would
> often require
> > redoing the entire piece -- something not conducive to financial
> > security in a very competitive market.
> >
> > B
> >
> > On 6/25/07, Mieke Roth < [log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > Joel wrote:
> >  >Photoshop...  It's too bad that fine art is connected to such a
> > method.
> >
> >  Hi Joel,
> >
> >  A strange remark for a list like this one. If you where
> talking to an
> >  audience that was just into making beautiful illustrations
> as a hobby,
> >
> >
> >  --
> >
> >
> > Bruce Bartrug
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