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I also like to use metal point dip pens for their flexibility. Much of my
work is a combination of ink and watercolor, and is often reproduced much
enlarged for exhibit wall murals. But even for delicate ink line drawing, I
like the quality of line, and ease of use, that a dip pen offers. Dr. Ph
Martin's Black Star Waterproof India Ink-Hicarb works very well.

Annie Runyon

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From: "Sawyers" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: [SCIART] pen query


> Not knowing any different, I used 4x0 and 6x0 rapidographs for a whole
book
> project.
> The 6x0 does clog a lot, and if I was going to take more than a few days
off
> I cleaned it out
> first. The drawings reproduced beautifully. We were working with a book
> designer, and she
> had no problem with lines that width (on Canson plate Bristol.) I have
since
> mostly switched to
> nibs, crowquill and the like, because I don't do pen and ink constantly,
and
> can't maintain the rapidographs.
> But don't rule it out if it's what you like.
>
> Susan Sawyer
> Four Winds Nature Institute
> South Woodbury, Vermont
>
> www.fourwindsinstitute.org
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Frank Ippolito" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 2:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [SCIART] pen query
>
>
> > the answer here is dependent on how - and at what size - the artwork is
> > being reproduced. when I did linework to be reproduced as a linecut, I
> > would work down to a 0000 for the finest details (sutures) and the
> > drawing would be reduced to 70% of size. things are different now - with
> > traditional linework being reproduced using a screen. as such I'd be
> > wary of thinner lines. also if these are being drawn lifesize, then the
> > reduction might be significantly smaller.
> >
> > frank
> >
> >>I agree with Britt. In fact, I never used anything smaller than a 3x0
way
> >>back when I used to do lots of ink work. Thinner lines would break up
when
> >>reproduced and the tiny little nibs would clog very easily.
> >>
> >>Jim
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>From: Britt Griswold <[log in to unmask]>
> >>>Reply-To: SciArt-L Discussion List-for Natural Science Illustration-
> >>><[log in to unmask]>
> >>>Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 13:26:30 -0400
> >>>To: [log in to unmask]
> >>>Subject: Re: [SCIART] pen query
> >>>
> >>>I never used anything smaller than a 4x0 in my Rapidograph days.  If
> >>>you are using a film substrate, I would think those lines are toast.
> >>>And a 6x0 point is going to be impossible to maintain. Are you sure
> >>>you wouldn't like to work at 150% and move up to a 4x0?
> >>>
> >>>Even there you are going to have to be careful if you are going to
> >>>have lots of detail. It could fill in when reproduced, if the detail
> >>>is dense and on film.
> >>>
> >>>Britt
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Is a 6x0 rapidograph too fine to reproduce well? There are so many
> >>>>fine details to capture in flower and plant parts - and I hate to
> >>>>keep switching pens.... These plants are being drawn full size,
> >>>>stipple, some of them no more than 10 cm high from root structure to
> >>>>top of flower stem....  Others will be much larger - up to 1.1 m tall
> >>>>- but I'm not there yet.... Will probably use a larger nib for the
> >>>>larger plants, no doubt - or should I keep it all the same all the
> >>>>way through for consistency???
> >>>>
> >>>>Any advice from the traditional media people out there?
> >>>>
> >>>>Kathy
> >>>>
> >>>>
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