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I recall reading a paper a few years back about the different names for
colours used in describing bird feathers. Various ornithologists were
given colour swatches and asked to point the 'olivaceous green', 'rusty
buff' or what have you. There was pretty little agreement between the
experts on which colour was which ostensibly technical term.
I wonder if something similar has been done for entomology?
On 11/03/2021 17:13, Droege, Sam wrote:
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> Interesting conversation. My in terpretation was always yellowish-brown! Coming from a Bee literature perspective and comparing that to specimens.
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> Based on the etymology and long use in taxonomy, testaceus is more associated with shades/hue of ochre than regular brown. I interpret it as similar to the color of a regular brick https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__binged.it_3t2cAki&d=DwIF-g&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=-lUMCZ4RK28H4qvcd3vmEBuyVJHHG0OpDzFenR9wX-A&m=a8zhGXUi_XMk6ERNOKSINOkZWd2AdbDqOSupAH25MMk&s=0FkpAjVoEPNY89fM-k1o5tcZsAtxzgjYLpCypCblg6M&e= <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gcc02safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Furldefense.proofpoint.com-252Fv2-252Furl-253Fu-253Dhttps-2D3A-5F-5Fbinged.it-5F3t2cAki-2526d-253DDwMF-2Dg-2526c-253DCu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX-5Frg6kWhlkLF8Eft-2Dwwo-2526r-253D-2DlUMCZ4RK28H4qvcd3vmEBuyVJHHG0OpDzFenR9wX-2DA-2526m-253DBXpRO3derwgBMd89mKYzYBftBFAHZudYT-5FV1QuZwNyQ-2526s-253D2fIEUEvKUSLBGcS5V1we7tgeXkPfsbtRkZxERFMlfHI-2526e-253D-26data-3D04-257C01-257Csdroege-2540usgs.gov-257C7f8dadddaf8d4e18ef8c08d8e4aa33c9-257C0693b5ba4b184d7b9341f32f400a5494-257C0-257C0-257C637510767107839916-257CUnknown-257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0-253D-257C1000-26sdata-3DcZTWDMP2bhfbgc-252BmlIXtjeEMTYMX7USVj8wikIVa3UU-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwIF-g&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=-lUMCZ4RK28H4qvcd3vmEBuyVJHHG0OpDzFenR9wX-A&m=a8zhGXUi_XMk6ERNOKSINOkZWd2AdbDqOSupAH25MMk&s=xF6Uychjjsx2-CIH_an8MtIzvolHhuNgAyaOFe6qJJI&e= > . Thus, it is more like reddish-brown. It makes sense to follow the tip of Andrew because some areas of P. americana indeed are testaceus.
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> A good source for definitions on all the color terms often used in species descriptions is "The Torre-Bueno Glossary of Entomology, 1989-2018." According the NYES website, a PDF version is available for free if you contact the Society at [log in to unmask] I would send you a PDF, but I don't have one.
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> That is the “brown” color of the cuticle without any other adaptive pigment, like a Periplaneta cockroach.
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