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Re: Bioethanol

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Neal Evenhuis <[log in to unmask]>

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Neal Evenhuis <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

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Maybe it is to disambiguate from ethanol made from scratch. Putting all those C’s and H’s and O’s together….

-N

From: Entomological Collections Network Listserve <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> on behalf of "Michael A. Ivie" <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
Reply-To: "Michael A. Ivie" <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
Date: Friday, March 10, 2017 at 9:28 AM
To: "[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>" <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
Subject: Re: Bioethanol


Bioethanol? Isn't that rum?  All ethanol is bioethanol, this is just a marketing ploy, like gluten-free corn chips.

Mike

On 3/10/2017 12:19 PM, Andrew Brower wrote:
I imagine it is called bioethanol because was distilled from corn or switchgrass or some other biological source (like when you go to the gas station and get biodiesel).  The important thing is the purity, as people have noted.

AB

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From: Entomological Collections Network Listserve <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> on behalf of "Shockley, Floyd" <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
Reply-To: "Shockley, Floyd" <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
Date: Friday, March 10, 2017 at 1:12 PM
To: "[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>" <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
Subject: Re: Bioethanol

Agreed.  I would request the MSDS sheets for it so you know what is in it, if anything.  If that just happens to be what they are calling ethanol for storage of specimens, that’s one thing.  I’m concerned though that it has other preservative elements like formaldehyde, etc. otherwise…why not just call it ethanol?  If they want your business, it’s in their best interest to provide you with any of that kind of information you request.  It’s not unreasonable.

Floyd

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From: Entomological Collections Network Listserve [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Peter Rauch
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 2:09 PM
To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Bioethanol

I would expect the answer to that question to be "It depends...."
I don't think that the term "bioethanol" is sufficiently standardized wrt what's in the product and how that might vary from production batch to batch (that might be consequential to the uses you intend it for).
Has this prospective vendor provided you with any informative specifications of their product, other than to call it "bioethanol"?
Peter R

On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 2:54 AM, Christos Georgiadis <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
Hi all,

We are in the process of purchasing a large quantity of ‘alcohol’ for specimen storage (the specimens will be collected by pitfall traps with the use of propylene-glycol, so no molecular work will be necessary after that…). So far we have been using 96% dehydrated ethanol bought in bulk (one barrel at a time). We have received an offer from a company selling ‘bioethanol’ in competitive prices. Does anyone have any idea of whether we can use that instead of what we used previously? Will it create any problems to long-term specimen storage?

Christos

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