Wow! What a great lesson in output. Thank you so much! I bet you are
right about the PPD. When I talked with the printer, I asked him about
the ppd and he had no idea what I was talking about. He's a really nice
guy but not terribly ontop of digital technology.
All my files are tifs. I have no idea if the color printer reads eps
files, and again, the fellow I'm working with had no idea what eps even
was. They mostly deal wth (shudder) MS Publisher programs.
I did send a pdf file along with the pagemaker (produced the old
fashioned way by printing to ps and then pulling it into Acrobat.
Would just printing it directly to a pdf in Pagemaker work better?) It
came out very badly. however, I'm thinking that the settings may not
have been tweaked just right, so I'm going to give that a try as well.
I'll let all of you guys in on anything I discover.
On Sunday, April 25, 2004, at 12:48 AM, Karen Ackoff wrote:
>> Odd things happened in the output, though. All the components were
>> originally greyscale for the offset printing part. However, the
>> client also wanted to output to a color copier, so I took the
>> Pagemaker file and just converted it to the spot color that the
>> offset prints will eventually be. Oddly enough, the only things that
>> printed green were the bars and boxes originally generated in PM.
>> The Tiffs all printed greyscale.
> This sounds like an incorrect printer description file. If you print
> to a color printer, but use a black & white printer description file,
> the output will come out as grayscale. I'm not familiar with
> PageMaker, but this is the case in Quark. In addition, if the printing
> interface has output settings, check to make sure these are set to
> "composite cymk".
>> So, I went back into Photoshop, converted all the Tiffs into mono
>> color pantone #347, reconverted them back to CMYK so I could re-save
>> them as tiffs, updated the PM file and printed. Now, all the PM
>> generated bars and boxes printed black, while the tiffs printed >> green.
> Assuming you converted correctly from a monotone to a cymk, this could
> still possibly be related to printer description issues.
> If the conversion was not done correctly... it could be an issue with
> Pantone colors. Check your channels and make sure the channel for your
> pantone color is not there. If it is, PageMaker could be looking for
> it, and it will sometimes cause problems with printing. I don't know
> if PageMaker automatically imports pantone colors for the color
> copier, or it they have to manually imported. And at any rate, extra
> channels can make for printing problems in general.
> So check channels and printing description files. It should be said
> that that some printers have drivers but no printing description files
> for OS X. We have this situation with Quark 6, Mac OS X 10.3, and our
> large format Epson 9600. What we have to do is convert everything to
> PDF and work with a slightly smaller feature set (in regard to the
> printer), and we can get things to image correctly. Make sure all your
> images are set to cmyk (not rbg). Even though programs like Quark and
> PageMaker can convert rgn to cmyk on the fly, they don't do a very
> good job, and images can appear washed out. Also, make sure to use
> tiff files, rather than eps, unless you have a postscript printer.
> (Quark 6 actually has a feature whereby you can print an eps file to a
> non-postscript printer, but there are memory limitations.)
> Good luck.
>> Any ideas what's going on here?
>> On Friday, April 23, 2004, at 04:06 PM, Britt Griswold wrote:
>>>> Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
>>>> X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by
>>>> listserv.unl.edu id i3NJIkn11144
>>>> I get the fact that you are a Mac but could you suggest to
>>>> the State Print Shop to purchase the software, also there is
>>>> MacOpenner for only $49.00 at the site? It allows
>>>> any PC to open a MAC formatted disk, CD, etc. Buy the software and
>>>> put it into your bill.
>>>> That way they always have it and you eliminate the problem
>>>> especially if they are a major client.
>>> If you have a CD burner, You should be able to write a disk that can
>>> be read on a Mac or a PC. But if you are running version 7 and they
>>> are running version 6.5, you maybe out of luck, unless you can save
>>> PDF might be a better alternative.
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>> Marcia Blanco
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