I have put a lot of thought into the subject, but maybe not into my
rant. I make my living creating scenic art, which is highly
collaborative and which is typically thrown into a dumpster after a
month on view. Very hard to steal something of that nature, yet we
have had frauds who show us their portfolio with photos of our work in
it which they claim as their own! Well, there's no hiring them, and
the the community is small enough to quickly spread the news. I don't
do the work for free, ever. So, I see your point clearly.
Anything I code is usually for the benefit of others and is focused on
science and open source implementations. Which is why I'm curious what
Science Illustration needs protection from. I don't know how well
Python interacts with Photoshop but it's worth a look. Thanks for the
On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 11:21 PM, Griswold, Britt (GSFC-279.0)[LUSA
Associates] <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> The issue is both licensing and mis-appropriation. I am not sure how much thought you put into your rant, but I would like to know - do you make your living from coding? How much coding time you donate for free to commercial entities....and do you give that code to other commercial firms for free? And are you cool with others stealing your code and saying it is their own? Do you get requests for free coding with the promise that it will look good on your resume, and do you accept those jobs?
> I do think there is (at least for now) less to worry about in this auto-watermark removal than first meets the eye. Most science illustrators who mark their own work are not likely to have enough constantly marked images for an algorithm to key into. And it may only require you to move the watermark location around the image to avoid it...
> But the future could be much different. What we need is a good automated photoshop plugin that will give us what we need for free. Since that seems to be what our customers are expecting from us, why can't we expect it from our suppliers as well? Maybe I should try that line on our plumber as well....
> Subject: Re: [SCIART] It has now gotten more difficult for us to protect out images
> As a member of perhaps a different generation of illustrators, can you
> elaborate on why watermark stripping is so worrisome. Is it because of
> licensing, or theft by other artists? I'd like a better perspective of
> why this google technology puts Scientific Illustrators specifically
> in a perilous position.
> I may be playing devil's advocate, but here it goes. What value does a
> single illustration have that a missing watermark can diminish it?
> Anything that's converted to pixels is able to be pirated, period. If
> you're spending more and more money on anti-theft tech, you're losing
> more than if you just gave the picture away. This is because, the same
> programmers that are creating watermarks are the same ones that are
> capable of removing them. But, aren't you creating work to generate
> more work? What does it matter if a work you've created is out in the
> wild without watermark? Have some way to make sure there's no doubt
> that it's yours, and you'll gather more work for yourself. Otherwise,
> keep your illustrations in un-digitized form to really protect them.
> End of Devil's Advocate rant.
> Meanwhile, here's the google blog post on the research and ways to
> protect against such watermark removing algorithms:
> Deborah, what language do you code in? I know a little python and am
> willing to help create something that's free for the community.
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