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Subject:

HEllo!

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[log in to unmask] (Pauline Denham)

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Thu, 7 Dec 95 14:59:01 CST

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Hello SciArt-L,
TEST, TEST....

Just checking if we are still on, or if everyone is just being quiet these
days!Oh, but I do have a question.

Are there many companies these days that are using scientific
illustratorsto develop educational CDs and software, other than Museums?At
GNSI in Flagstaff some people were discussing animation and modeling
projects for exhibit work, but how common are scientific illustrators used
in private industry (whether it be publishing, software, games,
etc...)?Just curious!

Thanks!Polly

Pauline Denham
Museum Artist
University of Nebraska State Museum
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Subject: Back on line!

YEEeeeee-Haaaaaw!
We are back on-line!!!Sorry about that!IF YOU sent a message last week and
didn't see it posted. I DIDN"T GET IT!! So, please send it again if you
can!Thanks, Polly

Pauline Denham
Museum Artist
University of Nebraska State Museum
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Subject: FYI-Internship!

Engineering Animation, Inc. is currently  seeking scientific illustrators
for illustration/animation intership opportunities. Interested applicants
should be accomplished in traditional media and have an interest in the use
of high-end 3-D modeling and animation software, and interactive multimedia
authoring tools. Experience with modeling  and animation tools is not
necessary;however, familiarity with IBM and Machintosh systems and digital
paint programs is strongly recommended. For more information call Laura
Williams or Carrie DiLorenzo at (515) 296-9908.


Engineering Animation, Inc.
ISU Research Park
2625 North Loop Drive
Ames, Iowa 50010


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Subject: Employment opportunity

>From Adobe thru Britt_Griswold
_______________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Employment opportunity
From:    [log in to unmask] at Internet
Date:    12/6/95  5:34 PM



Employment Opportunity

 We seek a full-time Graphics-Illustrator to participate in the 
development of an educational CD-ROM.  The job involves both graphics 
design and freehand illustration.  The successful applicant should have 
experience with programs such as Illustrator, Freehand, Painter, and 
Photoshop.  Experience with animation and 3-D design is helpful.  A sense 
of humor and a commitment to quality is essential.  Will consider new 
graduates. Competitive and negotiable salary plus a full health/benefits 
package.  
 Our multimedia studio is located at Pacific University in Forest 
Grove, Oregon,  a small liberal-arts community set in the beautiful 
farmlands and forests of the Pacific Northwest. A great place to live, or 
an easy 20 mile commute from downtown Portland.  

Contact:
 Dr. Wendy Kohn, Kwamba Productions
 Pacific University
 2043 College Way
 Forest Grove, OR 97116

 Tel: 503/359-2964
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Subject: Re: HEllo!

Hello Polly, I was wondering if we were still on the air also.  I have sent two 
messages regarding job openings posted on the internet over the past week.  
While I do not see my own messages, I was wondering if anyone was receiving 
them.

I haven't a clue as to how many science illustrators are working on CDs.  I know 
of three GNSI members involved in such things, none at a museum.

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_______________________________________________________________________________
Subject: HEllo!

Just checking if we are still on, or if everyone is just being quiet these
days!Oh, but I do have a question.

Are there many companies these days that are using scientific
illustratorsto develop educational CDs and software, other than Museums?
Thanks!Polly

Pauline Denham


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Subject: HEllo!

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Jennifer Fairman is developing two cd's here at the SI but for USDA's
Systematic Entomology Lab.  Speak up, Jenny - you should be on this
list.  She will be here thru 1996, I believe, finishing the second one.
Both are on Diptera.  The first one, on the "Expert System" to help
people identify fruit flies, has cover drawings originally done by
Britt Griswold and adapted by Jenny for the jewel case.  Pretty fancy!








Elaine R.S. Hodges, Scientific Illustrator
MRC 169, National Museum of Natural History
Smithsonian Institution
Washington, D.C. 20560
Phone: 202-357-2128, Fax: 202-786-2894
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Subject: CDs

So do most people develop with AuthorWare or Director? WHat is the program
of choice these days?  Wow, this is an interesting aspect of our
profession!I've heard rumor that some people are doing stuff similar to
"Toystory", for medical and scientific interactive CDs....WOW!Any thoughts?

Pauline Denham
Museum Artist
University of Nebraska State Museum
[log in to unmask]
phone-402-472-2657
fax-402-472-8949


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Hello Sci Ill group,

I have had numerous experiences in my 6 years at College of Veterinary Medicine creating animations
and illustrations for us in computer aided instruction.  Parasite lifecyles top the list as the longest subject 
continuing to be animated.   Within the past year these "modules" have been produced on CD for 
sell to other Vet schools or  other interested partys.  

Faculty members on Mac tend to use Authorware Professional (AWP)
for the currculum developemnt and delivery of the program. 
I use Macromedia Director (MMD) for the animations that are incorporated into the programs.
Within the past 2 years interactive commands scripted into MMD movies are
active when MMD is played through an AWP program.
IBM Faculty also use  MMD created  movies  by me. Because of the variety of EXPORT options that 
MMD can accomplish IBMers can use animations I created on my Mac system.   A CD on Internal 
Parasites of the Horse was published this summer.

Previous to the CD production, our Vet school subscribed to the Videodisc storage option for 
computer aided instruction.  Mac and IBM computer stations have a TV monitor and laserdisc attached 
so that the students interacted with the computer for lessons.  These programs 'cue' the user to look at 
TV monitor for  display of videofootage or animations.

Currently, CD ROM is the perferred way to go and many Videodisc programs will be converted or 
upgraded to diaplay on Computer monitor.

Our Educational Resources departement has a CD ROM burner.  
We use this for archiving, not for mass production.

I welcome any questions,


Allison Lucas Wright, MS, CMI
Medical Illustrator
Educational Resources
College of Veterinary Medicine
University of Georgia
Athens, GA

706/542-5710

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>Jennifer Fairman is developing two cd's here at the SI but for USDA's
>Systematic Entomology Lab.  Speak up, Jenny - you should be on this
>list.  She will be here thru 1996, I believe, finishing the second one.
>Both are on Diptera.  The first one, on the "Expert System" to help
>people identify fruit flies, has cover drawings originally done by
>Britt Griswold and adapted by Jenny for the jewel case.  Pretty fancy!
>
>
>
hey, no fair you guys....I am dying to see the art you have described
here....is there any way to view the art by Britt and Jenny at the
moment?  These illustrations sound tantilizing. I am starved for some
tantilizing art!!! (anything that is NOT a particle detector,particle
beams, machines,etc).  Give me FRUIT FLIES any day!!  :^)

Jaynie




Jaynie Martz, Technical Illustrator
[log in to unmask]
Continuous Electron Beam Accelerator Facility, Newport News, VA
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>
>I have had numerous experiences in my 6 years at College of Veterinary
>Medicine creating animations
>and illustrations for us in computer aided instruction.

Hi Allison...

What a fascinating email....Do you also do the script writing,
voice-overs?

Cheers........Jaynie


Jaynie Martz, Technical Illustrator
[log in to unmask]
Continuous Electron Beam Accelerator Facility, Newport News, VA
http://www.cebaf.gov


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Director you may be able to afford ($800) Authorware you can not, unless you are 
a serious develpoer ($3000).  For that kind of money it better be able to write 
scripts for me.

Give me a Rack of silicon graphics work stations and 100,000 worth of software, 
a lot of time, and I might be able to do "Toystory" too.

Britt (:7)
_______________________________________________________________________________
Subject: CDs
From:    <[log in to unmask]> at Internet
Date:    12/12/95  10:11 AM

So do most people develop with AuthorWare or Director? WHat is the program
of choice these days?  Wow, this is an interesting aspect of our
profession!I've heard rumor that some people are doing stuff similar to
"Toystory", for medical and scientific interactive CDs....WOW!Any thoughts?

Pauline Denham
Museum Artist
University of Nebraska State Museum
[log in to unmask]
phone-402-472-2657
fax-402-472-8949



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On Tue, 12 Dec 1995, Jaynie Martz wrote:

> >Jennifer Fairman is developing two cd's here at the SI but for USDA's
> >Systematic Entomology Lab.  Speak up, Jenny - you should be on this
> >list.  She will be here thru 1996, I believe, finishing the second one.
> >Both are on Diptera.  The first one, on the "Expert System" to help
> >people identify fruit flies, has cover drawings originally done by
> >Britt Griswold and adapted by Jenny for the jewel case.  Pretty fancy!
> >
> >
> >
> hey, no fair you guys....I am dying to see the art you have described
> here....is there any way to view the art by Britt and Jenny at the
> moment?  These illustrations sound tantilizing. I am starved for some
> tantilizing art!!! (anything that is NOT a particle detector,particle
> beams, machines,etc).  Give me FRUIT FLIES any day!!  :^)
> 
> Jaynie

Yes, Jaynie,

All hail Drosophila; Drosophila, all hail (or something like that). I 
would also be interested in seeing the illustrations of fruit flies.

Les Gartner
Anatomy
Dental School
University of Maryland

P.S. No, my fruit flies do _not_ have teeth.


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Date:     Wed, 13 Dec 1995 8:28:38 EST
Subject:  Scripts,sound
Priority: normal
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Hello,

I hope this response gets to the List.
Alittle tech-trouble this a.m.

'What a fascinating email....Do you also do the script writing,
voice-overs?"

The scripting that I have experience in is related to control within the animations.
Play,rewind,pause and stop action commands on buttons in the movie so that the viewer can
do these things.  I created these buttons and apply the appropriate commands to them.

Movie scripts have included overall command of "continue when mouse is clicked".
This goes with specificly placed "pause" as the movie or Presentation (MMD is a great presentation
production software) plays.   The pause can be as long as necessary until the user clicks  mouse to 
initate continued play of movie.

The sounds that have been placed in these movies are digitized.  LUB &  DUB for Canine Cardiac Cycle, 
heart beating showing insde chambers,blood flow and value open and close.
And a cat's meow, for Neurological Exam of the Cat and Dog.  As the stimulus is applyed to the cat it 
turns it's head and responses with a meow.


Allison Lucas Wright, MS, CMI
Medical Illustrator
Educational Resources
College of Veterinary Medicine
University of Georgia
Athens, GA

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"Allison,

Who publishes your CD ROM productions? I would be interested in hearing 
more about your work, although I doubt if my school (Dental School) would 
be willing to buy a package about horses (notwithstanding the adage about 
looking a gift horse in the _mouth_)."

HI!

I'm not involved with the CD-ROM production.  I'm so relieved when the "final" deadline is met 
that I don't follow it after that.

There is a great publication "Syllabus", Technology for Education. that is free to subscrib.
SyllabusWeb - http://www.syllabu.com this may give you subscrib info.
This Technology Magazine covers many  equipment, issues, products and case studies as related to 
Education.  You may be able to pick up on many things through this.  I have found it interesting and 
informative.   


Allison Lucas Wright, MS, CMI
Medical Illustrator
Educational Resources
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University of Georgia
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Hey Britt,
I had NO idea that Authorware was soo pricey!I took a short course on
Authorware here at UNL. They have a site license, so I am lucky! Pretty
COOL stuff! I am lucky enough to work for a  University that has a GREAT
media center and they give short courses ALL THE TIME!! Keeps me off the
streets!;)  What about this " flying toaster" program?I can't remember the
full name of the program. Apparently its fairly new. The company that
developed it is out ot Topuka..I mean Topeka Kansas. Any one know what I'm
talking about?I was just curious what its about!!  Later, Polly

Pauline Denham
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Hey all...FYI,
If you get a chance to read Macworld Jan 1996 issue. There is a wonderful
article on "Graphics Experts Share Their Secrets" about Greyscale to
bitmode changes and printing!Very fun stuff!Also a neat one on new Web
graphics and Fractal Painter!CHECK IT OUT!!Fun stuff!----Polly

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Does anyone have a copy of the job posting at Pacific University near
Portland, Oregon that appeared a couple of days ago????

If so, could you send the info my way....I accidentally deleted it....

Thanks in advance for your help

Karen Marks
Bat Conservation International
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No, no , no NO...I know the flying toasters on After Dark- my screen saver
of choice!! ;)

This is "Something (I can't remember the full name)-Toaster"! This is
somekind of animation and 3-D modeling program. A friend told me to check
it out, but I've never heard of it before!I think it is pricey too. I was
just wondering if anyone had heard about it! WHat it was, etc....
SOrry-Polly

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Hi Everyone:

Marlene and I would like to know if 24Mb RAM will allow us to run Photoshop 
fairly effectively, presuming we are not working in color.  We are considering a
PowerMac 7200 with that 24Mb RAM.  We don't have any more money than that, so 
that seems like our only choice...unless we buy a lower end system like a used 
Quadra with more RAM...  Whatever we get we may have to live with for up to two 
years.  (Right now we can't even open Photoshop 3.0.)

Thanks in advance.

Cool stuff about animation, you guys.  So Polly, when does "Beetlestory" come 
out??

-Clara
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Hey Britt,
  What about this " flying toaster" program?I can't remember the
full name of the program. Apparently its fairly new. The company that
developed it is out ot Topuka..I mean Topeka Kansas. Any one know what I'm
talking about?I was just curious what its about!!  Later, Polly

Pauline Denham

The Only "Flying Tosters" I Know about ar in "After Dark" a Screen Saver 
Program.  That's been arount for 4 years, but they keep adding new screen 
modules all the time.

Britt

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Done
Britt
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From:    <[log in to unmask]> at Internet
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Does anyone have a copy of the job posting at Pacific University near
Portland, Oregon that appeared a couple of days ago????

If so, could you send the info my way....I accidentally deleted it....

Thanks in advance for your help

Karen Marks
Bat Conservation International
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>This is "Something (I can't remember the full name)-Toaster"! This is
>somekind of animation and 3-D modeling program. A friend told me to check
>it out, but I've never heard of it before!I think it is pricey too.

Hi Polly,

You are refering to the Video Toaster, for the Amiga platform. It is a very
powerful little system (probably kept the whole platform afloat while Amiga
was rescued) that is used for broadcast quality animations and video
effects. Many of the flying logos of regional TV stations were created on
it. It is very pricy. I think that a basic system add_on is about $7000
(US). It goes up from there. It is still a bargain compared to the
dedicated systems that it competes with.

Fran

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It's called the Video Toaster and while it seems amazing, it really is true,
someone in Topeka, Kansas developed it. We haven't heard much about it
lately but if you do a net search for Video Toaster you will probably find
something.

>Hey Britt,
>  What about this " flying toaster" program?I can't remember the
>full name of the program. Apparently its fairly new. The company that
>developed it is out ot Topuka..I mean Topeka Kansas. Any one know what I'm
>talking about?I was just curious what its about!!  Later, Polly
>
>Pauline Denham
>
>The Only "Flying Tosters" I Know about ar in "After Dark" a Screen Saver 
>Program.  That's been arount for 4 years, but they keep adding new screen 
>modules all the time.
>
>Britt
>
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Hello Everyone!

Sorry it has taken me so long to voice myself here on the listserv, but I recen
tly changed email addresses from the University of Maryland to the National Mus
eum of Natural History hewre at the Smithsonian.  I heard from Elaine Hodges (j
ust down the hall form me) that people had questions about fruit flies (by the
way, Drosophila are not really taxonomically considered Tephritids (fruit flies
) but they belong to another family called "vinegar flies", so you wont see the
m on this CD ROM we've been producing).  And questions about CD ROMS with illus
trations, etc.

Well, here I am so fire away.  Just to let you know alittle bit about what I am
 doing here, I will be working for the Systematic Entomology LAboratory in the
Diptera unit until about the FAll of 1997.  We are currently trying to finish u
p a CD ROM "Expert System" which enables users to identify Tephritids with the
aid of character illustrations (scientific illustrations of different morpholog
ical aspects of the fruit flies).  It's like a traditional key only its compute
rized and works by process of elimiination rather than the usual step by step b
ook key.  The user can choose what characters he or she would like to use in or
derto identify the fly rateher than going by what a book would traditionally do
  At any rate, Britt Griswold, Susan Gruppe, and I have been doing the illustr
ations for this database.  now Iam finishing up the last 40 or so illustrations
 which will be on the CD ROM.  The logo for this project was created by Britt,
and I adapted it for the cd jewl box cover and the disk itself.  Hopefully this
 will be at the press and be out by the summer.  As for seeing any of it, its n
ot on the internet, though I am working on some other things for the internet.
It will be on display though, this summer at a library exhibit at the Natural H
istory museum and then eventually be in an exhibit called something like "the P
ast Present and Future of Scientific Illustration"  here at the museumso if you
 are here for the Guild Convention in July you will seeit!

The other project, which I am really here for is a Costa Rican Biodiversity pro
ject in which we are going to repatriate biodiversity info to Cosat Rica by goi
ng through our Diptera collection and putting images (photos and scientific ill
ustrations) and data on the collection on CD ROM and the WWW.

SO! I welcome any questions you might have on all this stuff.

Hope to here from ya'll.

Jennifer E. Fairman
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(w) (202) 382-1800

P.S. To Jaynie:  Hey! You are at CEBAF?  You are right down the street from whe
re we live (I mean my parents...we're in Kiln Creek, Yorktown VA!)

     To Les: hail alma mater (sp?)  University of Maryland! (i just graduated u
ndergrad in May....but you are in Baltimore right?)

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Does any one have information on an artist named Theodor Willem Nieuwenhuis
(The Netherlands, 1866-1951) and a book called Nederlandsche Planten (c.
1905)?

What is the most efficient way of researching endangered species of
California for a series of paintings that I'm planning to do?

Thanks for any help that you can pass on.


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Video-Toaster: originally designed to work on the Amiga System, I think they 
were going to port it to a new platform.  It is being used for TV quality 
Animation Special effects in Sequest and other sci-fi shows on the Networks.
I believe it is basicly the equivelent of a page layout program for video. You 
still need a 3-D program to construct basic art which is then "flown around" in 
Video Toaster.  One may come with the program.
$5000 about.

Britt
_______________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Toaster!
From:    <[log in to unmask]> at Internet
Date:    12/14/95  3:23 PM

No, no , no NO...I know the flying toasters on After Dark- my screen saver
of choice!! ;)

This is "Something (I can't remember the full name)-Toaster"! This is
somekind of animation and 3-D modeling program. A friend told me to check
it out, but I've never heard of it before!I think it is pricey too.



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>Hi Everyone:
>
>Marlene and I would like to know if 24Mb RAM will allow us to run Photoshop
>fairly effectively, presuming we are not working in color.

Hi Girl,

Keep in mind that Photoshop likes to see three times the amount of RAM over
file size. This means that you will be limited to 8 meg files. In
grayscale, for most applications this would be adequate. But for high res
(450 dpi) files to be sent to Allen Press, I found that I have been working
on files between 10 and 18 megs. Keep in mind that added layers and
channels build up the file size as you work. Also, if you use Photo CDs:
grayscale is loaded in As RGB @ 18 megs. Of course you can modify the color
depth to grayscale before you begin working in earnest, but as you can see,
you are cutting it close.

The otherside of the coin is that I ALWAYS recommend buying the biggest,
baddest machine you afford . . . .and upgrading later.

Frank

PS Happy Happy

Frank Ippolito    [log in to unmask]
American Museum of Natural History


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24mb is OK especilly if you are only doing Greyscale.  Besides, you can always 
add more RAM (weddle it out of them).

Personally I would prefer an 8500/16/2GB/4xCD,  But what can you do, if you are 
on a buget?

I dare not say more, as you know, you can never have to much speed and size when 
it comes to graphics, epecially Photoshop....

At least get the 90mhz version.
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Subject: system configuration

Hi Everyone:

Marlene and I would like to know if 24Mb RAM will allow us to run Photoshop 
fairly effectively, presuming we are not working in color.  We are considering a
PowerMac 7200 with that 24Mb RAM.

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>  At any rate, Britt Griswold, Susan Gruppe, and I have been doing the illustr
>ations for this database.  now Iam finishing up the last 40 or so illustrations
> which will be on the CD ROM.  The logo for this project was created by Britt,
>and I adapted it for the cd jewl box cover and the disk itself.  Hopefully this
> will be at the press and be out by the summer.  As for seeing any of it, its n
>ot on the internet, though I am working on some other things for the internet.
>It will be on display though, this summer at a library exhibit at the Natural H
>istory museum and then eventually be in an exhibit called something like "the P
>ast Present and Future of Scientific Illustration"  here at the museumso if you
> are here for the Guild Convention in July you will seeit!
  >
Hi Jennifer....what exciting projects. You sound VERY busy up there. (Britt
too....how does he manage to do so many things at the same time?? :^)

I was hoping there was a web site where some of this work that could be
visited....I very much enjoy seeing other illustrators' work....and
'insect' illustrating is so detailed and lovely. How did you get into
this kind of art? It's so very specialized....are you drawing and painting
by hand or creating computer art?  So many questions.......

>The other project, which I am really here for is a Costa Rican Biodiversity pro
>ject in which we are going to repatriate biodiversity info to Cosat Rica by goi
>ng through our Diptera collection and putting images (photos and scientific ill
>ustrations) and data on the collection on CD ROM and the WWW.

this sounds thoroughly worthwhile Jennifer.....


>P.S. To Jaynie:  Hey! You are at CEBAF?  You are right down the street from whe
>re we live (I mean my parents...we're in Kiln Creek, Yorktown VA!)
>
 aha!! So now you must promise to stop by for a visit one of those rare
times you make it back to ole Viginny...bring a copy of your collection
 if you can. I am the only illustrator at CEBAF so I am easy to find.
 249-5022 if you are ever in town on a weekday.


Jaynie Martz, Technical Illustrator
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>It's called the Video Toaster and while it seems amazing, it really is true,
>someone in Topeka, Kansas developed it. We haven't heard much about it
>lately but if you do a net search for Video Toaster you will probably find
>something.


The new buzz on the Toaster is that it is being ported over to PC. While
this new version looks really strong, there has apparently been unveiled a
competing PC system that looks even more amazing. The full blown system,
pricey for us individuals at around $20 grand, is creating broadcast
quality animated 3D graphics that rivals the $200 SGI systems! I'll have to
look up the name of this one.

Frank

Frank Ippolito    [log in to unmask]
American Museum of Natural History


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>Date: Wed, 06 Dec 1995 14:35:46 -0800 (PST)
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>Employment Opportunity
>
>        We seek a full-time Graphics-Illustrator to participate in the
>development of an educational CD-ROM.  The job involves both graphics
>design and freehand illustration.  The successful applicant should have
>experience with programs such as Illustrator, Freehand, Painter, and
>Photoshop.  Experience with animation and 3-D design is helpful.  A sense
>of humor and a commitment to quality is essential.  Will consider new
>graduates. Competitive and negotiable salary plus a full health/benefits
>package.
>        Our multimedia studio is located at Pacific University in Forest
>Grove, Oregon,  a small liberal-arts community set in the beautiful
>farmlands and forests of the Pacific Northwest. A great place to live, or
>an easy 20 mile commute from downtown Portland.
>
>Contact:
>        Dr. Wendy Kohn, Kwamba Productions
>        Pacific University
>        2043 College Way
>        Forest Grove, OR 97116
>
>        Tel: 503/359-2964
>        Fax: 503/359-2242
>        email: [log in to unmask]
>
>

Jaynie Martz, Technical Illustrator
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I'm interested in Jennifer Fairman's Costa Rican biodiversity project.  I'm
in Costa Rica working on the Monteverde Flora project.  We are getting
interested in putting images on the WWW,etc.

JENNIFER (and others): What methods are you using for putting the photos on
the computer (scanning slides, digital camera?).

Has anyone been using digital cameras for photographing plants (or other
organisms) for images to use in CD's or the WWW? Any recommendations?

Ms. Willow Zuchowski
(e-mail: [log in to unmask])
Monteverde, Costa Rica


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Ditto

Britt
_______________________________________________________________________________

Keep in mind that Photoshop likes to see three times the amount of RAM over
file size. This means that you will be limited to 8 meg files. In
grayscale, for most applications this would be adequate. But for high res
(450 dpi) files to be sent to Allen Press, I found that I have been working
on files between 10 and 18 megs. Keep in mind that added layers and
channels build up the file size as you work. Also, if you use Photo CDs:
grayscale is loaded in As RGB @ 18 megs. Of course you can modify the color
depth to grayscale before you begin working in earnest, but as you can see,
you are cutting it close.

The otherside of the coin is that I ALWAYS recommend buying the biggest,
baddest machine you afford . . . .and upgrading later.

Frank

PS Happy Happy

Frank Ippolito    [log in to unmask]
American Museum of Natural History



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Do you know if this position is a one time project--to develope an 
educational CD-ROM or is it a permanent position?




> 
> >Date: Wed, 06 Dec 1995 14:35:46 -0800 (PST)
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> >
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> >development of an educational CD-ROM.  The job involves both graphics
> >design and freehand illustration.  The successful applicant should have
> >experience with programs such as Illustrator, Freehand, Painter, and
> >Photoshop.  Experience with animation and 3-D design is helpful.  A sense
> >of humor and a commitment to quality is essential.  Will consider new
> >graduates. Competitive and negotiable salary plus a full health/benefits
> >package.
> >        Our multimedia studio is located at Pacific University in Forest
> >Grove, Oregon,  a small liberal-arts community set in the beautiful
> >farmlands and forests of the Pacific Northwest. A great place to live, or
> >an easy 20 mile commute from downtown Portland.
> >
> >Contact:
> >        Dr. Wendy Kohn, Kwamba Productions
> >        Pacific University
> >        2043 College Way
> >        Forest Grove, OR 97116
> >
> >        Tel: 503/359-2964
> >        Fax: 503/359-2242
> >        email: [log in to unmask]
> >
> >
> 
> Jaynie Martz, Technical Illustrator
> [log in to unmask]
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> 


-- 
===========================================
Kathryn Evans
Slide Librarian
Visual and Performing Arts
Purdue University
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With proper lighting and filters, the Kodak Digital cameras do a very good job 
of making images that are "good". More than adequit for web work.  The least 
expensive way to put slides on line and arguabley the best methond of saving the 
images for the long term is Kodak Photo CD, Kodak is developing new protocals so 
that viewers can call up photoCD images directly from thier native format and 
even zoom in on details pulled from the High res versions right over the web via 
plug-ins to popular viewer software.
___________ News Release_____________
The Kodak Photo CD on the Web mailing list has been created to provide
a forum for questions, comments, and discussion of the use of Photo CD 
images on the Web, using the capabilities announced at the 4th International
Web Conference on December 11, 1995. 

To subscribe to the pcd-web mailing list, mail to: 

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and have:

SUBSCRIBE PCD-WEB First_Name Last_Name

on a line by itself in the body (and no other text). Substitute your
first name and your last name in the above
command, such as:

SUBSCRIBE PCD-WEB JOHN DOE 

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In a previous message Chris posted:
  
  What are the basic steps and needed software to take a Kodak phot-cd from 
  the cd to a web page on the internet?

Check out Phillip Greenspuns essay on this:

 http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/philg/how-to-scan-photos.html

It worked for me!

Lance
_______________________KODAK WWW Page CD-> WEB______________
http://www.kodak.com/digitalImaging/cyberScene/experience.shtml
_________

Good luck!

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I'm interested in Jennifer Fairman's Costa Rican biodiversity project.  I'm
in Costa Rica working on the Monteverde Flora project.  We are getting
interested in putting images on the WWW,etc.

Has anyone been using digital cameras for photographing plants (or other
organisms) for images to use in CD's or the WWW? Any recommendations?

Ms. Willow Zuchowski
(e-mail: [log in to unmask])
Monteverde, Costa Rica



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Hi Willow,
As a matter of fact I just finished a little side project here at work for a pr
esentation my mentor needed for the Entomological Society convention.  He neede
d photos that could be placed into digital format. This is a quick and simple p
rocess, especially if you want to avoid the hassle of buying the right film, ge
tting your film developed, worrying about filling up the whole roll, waiting fo
r processing, etc.  If you are doing something that is quick, then I suggest us
ing the Kodak Digital Camara.  The camara works very simply: you take a picture
 (has auto focus, you can turn the flash on and off, you also have an auto time
r, and you can change the exposure). The picture is stored in the camara in dig
ital format.  This particular camara holds 48 shots at about 1.1 MB each.  The
n using software called Kodak Photoenhancer, you retrieve your images, edit the
m or export them to Photoshop where you can do more.  HOWEVER: yes there are li
mitations!  We used the camara to get shots of people and our facilities.  Doin
g something a little more detailed like plants and such might be a little more
difficult to capture the detail you want.  The focal length only allows you to
stand as close as 4 feet away from your subject.  The resolution of the images
is excellent for "people pictures" or larger less detailed objects. Otherwise,
if you want more detail, I would suggest using you traditional 35mm SLR with a
zoom lens.  With this you can use slide film (which can be scanned with a slide
 scanner and put into Photoshop, or get the pictures developed and scan them in
 using a flatbed scanner. I know that Penn Camara and other places like Ritz ca
n put your shots on CD-ROM where you can import them for Web pages and things..
however I have never done that so I can't tell you about the quality.  These d
igital camaras are good for fast importing of images without all the intermedia
te steps and run anywhere between $600 to about $1200.  The most common ones I
have seen run for about $950 or so. (oh...and yes they are full color) The lens
 on the one I am using is f/2.8 (42 mm equiv). FOr what we are doing with insec
ts, the digital camara is a waste because our subjects are too small, so a micr
oscope with a camara attachment (either 35mm or video) is used.  There are lots
 of ways to do plants I suppose, it depends on what you want to do.

To Jaynie: Our Costa Rican project is geared toward the WWW so you'll be able t
o see it in '96.

Jennifer E. Fairman
[log in to unmask]
(202) 382-1800

P.S.  I am going to assume that the GNSI holiday party is cancelled since I am
the only illustrator in this government facility that hasn't been sent home....
boo hoo...it's so quiet here....:(  oh well, see ya'll later

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Willow,
Jennifer is correct about the consumer level Kodak camera.  If you are serious 
about going digital with your camera, Kodak also makes several high end 35mm 
models based on Nikon standard bodies that will produce up to 18MB files, 36bit 
color and if captured well, are the equivallent of 35mm film to PhotoCD 
convertion.  But it is not inexpensive.Expect to spend $10,000. before you are 
through.  This makes the Standard film to photoCD option look very attractive if 
you already have good camera gear.

[log in to unmask]
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  If you are doing something that is quick, then I suggest us
ing the Kodak Digital Camara.  The camara works very simply: you take a picture
 (has auto focus, you can turn the flash on and off, you also have an auto time
r, and you can change the exposure). The picture is stored in the camara in dig
ital format.  This particular camara holds 48 shots at about 1.1 MB each.  
  HOWEVER: yes there are limitations!  We used the camara to get shots of people 
and our facilities.  Doin
g something a little more detailed like plants and such might be a little more
difficult to capture the detail you want.  The focal length only allows you to
stand as close as 4 feet away from your subject.  The resolution of the images
is excellent for "people pictures" or larger less detailed objects. Otherwise,
if you want more detail, I would suggest using you traditional 35mm SLR with a
zoom lens.  With this you can use slide film (which can be scanned with a slide
 scanner and put into Photoshop, or get the pictures developed and scan them in
 using a flatbed scanner. I know that Penn Camara and other places like Ritz ca
n put your shots on CD-ROM where you can import them for Web pages and things.
Jennifer E. Fairman
[log in to unmask]
(202) 382-1800

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All SciArt-L'ers,
Well, all its THAT time of year!!I'm going south for the holidays and won't
be back until they open the University up on the 2nd! Sooooo, that means
SciArt-L will be a bit quiet for a week or so(after today)! I hope you have
a MERRY Christmas and a safe and Wonderful New Years! Here's a little
something to put a smile on your face!Particularly those of you who work
with the scientists sooooo closely!ONLY a scientist would think this
up!!Enjoy!

Santa and the Scientific Method:

1) No known species of reindeer can fly.  But it is estimated that there are
300,000 species of living organisms yet to be classified, and while most of
these are insects and germs, this does not COMPLETELY rule out flying
reindeer, which only Santa has ever seen.

2) There are 2 billion children (persons under 18) in the world.  But since
Santa doesn't (appear) to handle the Muslim, Hindu, Jewish and Buddhist
children, that reduces the workload to 15% of the total - 378 million
according to the Population Reference Bureau.  At an average (census) rate
of 3.5 children per household, that's 91.8 million homes.  One presumes
there's at least one good child in each.

3) Santa has 31 hours of Christmas to work with, thanks to the different
time zones and the rotation of the earth, assuming he travels east to west
(which seems logical).  This works out to 822.6 visits per second.  This is
to say
that for each Christian household with good children, Santa has 1/1000th of
a second to park, hop out of the sleigh, jump down the chimney, fill the
stockings, distribute the remaining presents under the tree, eat whatever
snacks have been left, get back up the chimney, get back into the sleigh and
move on to the next house.  Assuming that each of these 91.8 million stops
are evenly distributed around the earth (which, of course, we know to be
false but for the purposes of our calculations we will accept), we are now
talking about .78 miles per household, a total trip of 75-1/2 million
miles, not
counting stops to do what most of us must do at least once every 31 hours, plus
feeding and etc.  This means that Santa's sleigh is moving at 650 miles per
second, 3,000 times the speed of sound.  For purposes of comparison, the
fastest man-made vehicle, the Ulysses space probe, moves at a poky 27.4
miles per second - a conventional reindeer can run, tops, 15 miles per hour.


4) The payload on the sleigh adds another interesting element.  Assuming
that each child gets nothing more than a medium-sized lego set (2 pounds),
the sleigh is carrying 321,300 tons, not counting Santa, who is invariably
described as overweight.  On land, conventional reindeer can pull no more
than 300 pounds.  Even granting that "flying reindeer" (see point #1) could
pull ten times the normal amount, we cannot do the job with eight, or even
nine. We need 214,200 reindeer.  This increases the payload - not even
counting the weight of the sleigh - to 353,430 tons.  Again, for comparison
- this is four times the weight of the Queen Elizabeth.

5) 353,000 tons traveling at 650 miles per second creates enormous air
resistance - this will heat the reindeer up in the same fashion as
spacecraft re-entering the earth's atmosphere.  The lead pair of reindeer
will absorb 14.3 QUINTILLION joules of energy, per second,.each.  In short,
they will burst into flame almost instantaneously, exposing the reindeer
behind them, and create deafening sonic booms in their wake.  The entire
reindeer team will be vaporized within 4.26 thousandths of a second.
Santa, meanwhile, will be subjected to centrifugal forces 17,500.06 times
greater than gravity.  A 250-pound Santa (which seems ludicrously slim)
would be pinned to the back of his sleigh by 4,315,015 pounds of force.

In conclusion - If Santa ever DID deliver presents on Christmas Eve, he's
dead now or REALLY thin!


Pauline Denham
Museum Artist
University of Nebraska State Museum
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Ho Ho Ho!!!

I like that one Polly. It went right up on the elevator wall.

Happy Holidays one and all!

Cheers,

Frank

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American Museum of Natural History


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Thanks Britt for the photo cd info.

We've experimented a little with that (with butterfly photos), but
unfortunately it isn't very practical for us as we are a four-hr. drive
from the Costa Rican capitol, San Jose, AND they do not process film to
photo cd there.

Even film processing is a bit of a hassle here, and the quality leaves
something to be desired.  So the instant results of a digital camera are
very tempting.  If we get one, and experiment with the close-up lenses,
I'll let you all know how it goes.

Merry Christmas ... probably a white one for most of you (quite green here
in Costa Rica).

Willow Zuchowski
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I understand your situation.  But certainly, all the negs and slides you already 
have that you want on the web could be sent to the states for convertion to 
photoCD at $1-2 a scan.  If you have the expertise, and time on your hands, you 
could spend a lot of time doing scans on a desktop scanner, but it is nice to 
let someone else do it when it cost so little.  

I just saw an article on a new electronic camera with closeup lenses, lets you 
get as close as 5 inches, retail $999 for the camera, $129 for the close-up 
lenses. Makes a 640x480 res picture.  Don't know the quality.

Dycam model 10-C
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Merry Christmas

Britt
_______________________________________________________________________________
Subject: images/photo cd
From:    <[log in to unmask]> at Internet
Date:    12/21/95  2:59 PM

Thanks Britt for the photo cd info.

We've experimented a little with that (with butterfly photos), but
unfortunately it isn't very practical for us as we are a four-hr. drive
from the Costa Rican capitol, San Jose, AND they do not process film to
photo cd there.

Even film processing is a bit of a hassle here, and the quality leaves
something to be desired.  So the instant results of a digital camera are
very tempting.  If we get one, and experiment with the close-up lenses,
I'll let you all know how it goes.

Merry Christmas ... probably a white one for most of you (quite green here
in Costa Rica).

Willow Zuchowski
(e-mail: [log in to unmask])



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