> Remember a month or so back when MJ posted a note from Prentice
>categories of scientific illustration they needed artists for...
> Today I received a phone call from Prentice Hall as an invitation
>to bid on
>I have never bid on a book, and I'm not exactly sure what I'm dealing with
> They faxed me many sheets of terms and conditions, it's a "work
>for hire" so
>they keep all rights. When a publisher sends out bids, how many people are
>usually competing? What do publishers think like? What's the view from their
>side of the table?
> They have a seemingly complex system of categorizing drawings,
>new art to very complex new art. Not having received a portion of the
>manuscript yet for a sample, I wonder, how do those of you who work with the
>publishers even start to make an estimate? The book has some 250 drawings,
>turnaround time about a month.
> Do you work directly with the author, or is it through middlemen?
> Do you have any general feelings and guidelines about these kinds
>projects? I asked Cindy, she said it seemed that somehow we are supposed to
>be inherently able to understand these jobs, but I'm one who doesn't...
Work for hire is pretty standard for the textbook publishers, I don't know
that you must accept it however. There is usually a basket of rights the
textbook publisher needs. You can probably satifiy their needs while
retaining your original art, as well as the right to resell it's use to
non-textbook purchasers. But if they have enough artists able to do what
they need willing to sign the work for hire, then you are out of luck and a
Some of the subscribers to this list maybe direct competitors to
you on this job, but I hope that won't stop them from relating any stories
they may have about doing Textbook work in other than Work-For-Hire
250 drawings in 1month? Not by yourself I hope. You better have a
stable of artist ready to pump them out. The one month deadline seems
short to me, so you should charge top dollar. If you can't get it then the
job is not worh it. You will have to deligate and coordinate, I doubt you
will have much time to do art yourself.
I would suggest you look at the Pricing Guide that has been talked about on
this list serve before, I think it is put out by the Graphic Artists
Off the top Of my head, If I had to do 250 pieces of art in on month I woud
need to hire all the freelancers I could find and pay them well.
Think in terms of Detail and Number of Objects and Research needed, and
Rights sold (Work-For-Hire=Full Buyout). Not Reproduction size, thought
that *should effect the level of detail*
Very Complex Art- $2000ea.
Complex Art- $1500ea.
Black & White
Very Complex Art- $1000ea.
Complex Art- $750ea.
A Lot of Publishers want their Art in electronic form these days. If you
are working on the computer, Think at least $60/hr. Line art -they will
want as Vector graphics.
You can scan in hand art at the proper resolution for their needs, but use
the best scanner you can get, or hire. Commercial Scans, think $60/ per
CMYK scan from flexible art of small to medium size. Don't forget to
findout the Press conditions from the publisher, your scan tech will need
Hope fully the Publisher will want to do their own scanning and add text
and leaders, etc. at their end. This will reduce the burden on you. You
will not have to charge extra then.
The working relationship can be highly variable, but if you are expected to
do the job in a month, then they better have all the wrinkles worked out
with concept sketches already, so you won't be working with the author. If
they don't have concept sketches, Add a month and some more money, and
don't let the author get to creative or he/she will make it a 3 month job
by making each piece as jampacked with info as you will let them.
Anyone want to comment on the above prices. I have never been heavily into
the book publishing market, I think those are fair prices, but maybe not
as low as they might go if there is a lot of competition.
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