>Just another newbie lurker seeking advice (JALSA??)...My name is Riley, and
>I'm a marine scientist making the bold leap into the art world with both
>feet. As I build skills and clients for my illustration career, (look out,
>another fish artist in the making...:)), I am seeking employment on a full
>time basis where I can gain skills in graphic design and web design and
>make contacts in the publishing world.
>I have a good amount art training and am definitely qualified for these
>endeavors, but I am finding that my skills in knowing how to evaluate what
>would be a good situation or job environment are not as finely tuned to the
>art world as they are for science.
>Here's my question...-->I'm being considered for a job with a company that
>publishes magazines and puts on expostions that cater to the fishing
>industry (where I have a lot of expertise as a scientist). I've been
>passed up for a challenging web design position that went to an in house
>person, but I am being considered to take the now vacant position in
>Okay, so here is my question...I may be offered this position, but there is
>even further politics in that another in house person wants to be promoted
>to the position in question. So...the manager is deciding whether he should
>hire me for the current vacancy; or promote this other person, and offer me
>the lower job. Keeping in mind that the salary has dropped considerably as
>we fall down the ladder here...
>At what point does this cease to become something worth fighting for? Do I
>take the entry-level job to get in the door, or do I pass it up because I
>am qualified for a position that is much more creatively challenging and
>I'm looking for some insight from people who are working in the graphic
>design world who can help me decide if getting in the door and moving up
>the ladder is more important than holding out for a more appropriate and
>challenging position somewhere else(with no guarantees from anyone anywhere
This depends strictly on how hard up you are for a job in this company.
The manager will do what ever makes his life easier. If he expectes the
inhouse person can do a "good enough" job, then he has the thing in the
bag. If the manager does not think the person can handle it well, and your
skills are superior, you get it.
How much contracting out of projects does this company do? Maybe they have
need of a freelance designer who gets paid well when he works, but not at
all when he does not? Then you can persue better opportunities for
full-time employment, with more projects under your belt to show your
skills. (don't quit your day job).
If you are already freelancing for them and are looking to work for them
full-time, how long do employees last there? Are they a growing concern?
The answer to those questions will tell you if you should take a bet on the
low paying third banana position.
If this is a position that will eat up all your time, and offer no
opportunity for you to be creative elsewhere (i.e. others don't pull their
weight) think twice. Just an opinion, You may be able to impress them once
you are producing for them. (But if you are freelancing for them now, and
the manager is only willing to give you the low end job, maybe you need to
go impress some other company and just continue freelancing for these guys).
If you have not had the producion experience and they offer you the Third
Banana position, take it and learn something. If you have done it before
and this company is not growing, don't bother (my opinon, from someone who
has a steady challenging job, and it should be taken with a grain of salt.)
Britt Griswold/MAP Project
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Greenbelt, MD 20771
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