Joan, Interesting.Maybe young moose sometimes don't have all their hormones in order quite yet and so she got off of the normal schedule. Kind of like first year nesting birds do goofy things with nesting and put a lot of energy into unproductive broods. I think the hormonal systems are really pretty complicated and it's a miracle things don't go awry more often. Catie -----Original Message----- From: SciArt-L Discussion List-for Natural Science Illustration- [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Joan Lee Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 8:26 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [SCIART] report from the fort Gail made it official that our spokesmoose for the 09 conference is Francine, whose photo I sent to her and to a few other GNSI people. Francine Alces alces was born here about 3 years ago. I remember her as a calf with her mom at my pond. I have a snapshot of her jumping out of the tall grass where her mother had hidden her and rushing into the pond to her mother when she saw me. Her mom lifted her head from eating delicious whatevers under the water, looked at me, calmly turned and nudged baby into the woods where they both immediately disappeared. I saw them from time to time that summer and the mother never seemed disturbed by my presence. I made sure never to yield to the temptation to ease closer, but I did talk to her. They have great hearing and she would twitch her ears (never once did her ears go back in a threatening position). I never name wildlife but I named the mom Francine, and the calf, when I saw it was female, Francine Jr. This summer Francine (Jr), a fine looking young moose, came back to the pond. I see her regularly and try not to disturb her. Recently I took a photograph of her and emailed it to a few GNSI people. One person questioned whether the moose was pregnant. She did look hefty, but because we had such a severe winter I figured she was just filling up on tasty greenery. It is too late in the season here for moose births. So I said, no, and hypothesized that she was just making up for a lean winter. I was walking in the woods early this morning and thought I caught a faint whiff of death. I investigated and, sure enough, there was a stillborn baby moose in a location that would be typical of an undisturbed moose birth, in the ferns. I have no idea why a baby moose would be born here so late in the season. In neighborhing New Hampshire, which is considerably south of here, they are born in mid May to mid June, and it is about their second or third year that they have their first calf. This birth was no more than a couple of days ago. I am hoping that the coyotes do not want it and that I can salvage some bones for study. Will check with the local game warden. Joan