Lynn, Just a little to add to this as I have been reading most of this thread. I have read the comments with interest and have found enlightenment through the many varied opinions, I, like you, see the positive side to this, a start in a direction that has possibilities of becoming much more! Marie On 8/11/08 10:17 PM, "Lynn Usack" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Thank you Gretchen, I appreciate your clarification. > I can see that sentiments are strong, as the profession needs and > deserves more respect and recognition. I'll restate that I am grateful > for the publicity, especially because it includes the link to the GNSI > site, where people can learn much more. It is an opportunity, even if it > does not satisfy everyone's ideas on what Nature should have covered. I > didn't expect the additional conversation but I can see their points > too. I just prefer at this point to see the positive side of this. As > for Mieke's comments, yes, I agree, you have more work to do. I'll leave > it there, let's move on. > Thanks, > Lynn > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: gretchen halpert <[log in to unmask]> > Date: Monday, August 11, 2008 8:03 pm > Subject: Re: [SCIART] conference publicity > To: [log in to unmask] > >> Hi all,Well, I really didn't mean to start a discussion with the >> notice, but >> I'm not surprised. What happened was that the journal/writer saw >> our website >> on the conference and wanted to write an article about it. It was an >> overview highlighting what the journal found interesting, extracted >> from a >> lot of information I and others gave them. I would have loved to have >> written the article myself, with more specifics about the field, >> but it >> wouldn't have been published. They included the GNSI website, so >> hopefullythose interested will look us up and find out about >> scientific illustration >> in more depth. >> I'm happy Nature took an interest and who knows....perhaps it will >> lead some >> scientists to the GNSI website and to Science-Art.com and someone >> will get >> some work..... >> Best, >> Gretchen >> >> Gretchen Halpert >> illustrator, educator >> gretchen.halpert(at)gmail.com >> >> On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 1:09 PM, Mieke Roth <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I have to agree with Frank and I don't think we only should be >> grateful> that >>> we were named in Nature. What we do is serious business and it is >> getting> more and more important to be able to visualize scientific >> fact and data. >>> >>> I don't know if we should take look at ourselves for the fact >> that the >>> profession apparently isn't taken that seriously in such a >> serious magazine >>> or that this journalist just didn't get it, but for me it means >> that we >>> still have some work to do, pr wise. >>> >>> Mieke >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: SciArt-L Discussion List-for Natural Science Illustration- >>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Lynn Usack >>> Sent: maandag 11 augustus 2008 18:57 >>> To: [log in to unmask] >>> Subject: Re: [SCIART] conference publicity >>> >>> I guess I'm just happy we were written up in Nature, never >> happened before >>> right? There's always a next time now that we were noticed. I >> understand> Frank's comments, I'm just grateful for the press in >> such a prestigious >>> journal. >>> Lynn >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: SciArt-L Discussion List-for Natural Science Illustration- >>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Joan Lee >>> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 11:43 AM >>> To: [log in to unmask] >>> Subject: Re: [SCIART] conference publicity >>> >>> On Aug 11, 2008, at 11:28 AM, Frank Ippolito wrote: >>> >>>> it is a nice prop in an important publication. though the basic >>>> sentiment is about how integral illustration is within the >> sciences,> > I do wish that the author hadn't repeated returned >> focus on the >>>> aspects seen at the meeting that had so little to do with actual >>>> science illustration. Terryl Whitlatch's "fantasy creatures... >>>> inspired by the anatomy of real animals" is a nice sidebar to our >>>> profession. on its own it would have served as such. but the >> author> > then quotes Warren Allmon description of "... inspired >> guesses, and >>>> artistic creativity to form a picture of what animals may have >> once> > looked like." all the part's of Warren's talk where he >> mentions actual >>>> paleontological illustration (and not popularized animal >> restorations)> > is left out. he then mentions Jame's Gurney's >> Dinotopia talk. this >>>> keynote was interesting and entertaining but not about real >> science> > illustration. all this in a one page article leaves >> little room to >>>> mention what science illustration really is and what GNSI >> typically> > focuses on during a conference. in Omni magazine this >> would have been >>>> expected. I guess when I see writings in journals such as >> Nature or >>>> Science I am expecting an article written for scientists. >>>> >>>> -frank >>>>> Hey, hey, hey! I got my copy of the Nature article and I >> didn't even >>>>> need to make the trip to Tufts (not a long drive for distance, >> just> >> the so-called "rush hour" traffic that lasts all day). >>>>> >>>>> I've been looking at the link for a time and found that you >> didn't> >> need to subscribe, however, the article still costs >> $32.00 and it was >>>>> just one page! (Gulp!) So, I FINALLY decided to just write to the >>>>> library at Tufts yesterday and received a PDF copy this morning. >>>>> >>>>> It was well worth the wait folks! >>>>> >>>>> Janet P. Wilkins >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> From: gretchen halpert <[log in to unmask]> >>>>>> Date: 2008/07/29 Tue PM 06:51:33 CDT >>>>>> To: [log in to unmask] >>>>>> Subject: [SCIART] conference publicity >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi all,Here are two links of interest: >>>>>> The first is from Jim Gurney's blog, with a very nice report >> of the >>>>>> conference under July >>>>>> 24th: http://gurneyjourney.blogspot.com/2008/07/guild-of- >> natural- >>>>>> science-illustrators.html >>>>>> >>>>>> The second is an article that was in the Journal Nature. Your >> best> >>> bet for reading it is from a university library unless >> you have a >>>>>> subscription. The article came out the week before the >> conference> >>> and was posted on the bulletin board at the >>>>>> >> registration.http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v454/n7202/full/> >>>>> 454278a.html >>>>>> >>>>>> Both good press for the GNSI. >>>>>> The Ithaca conference committee rocks! >>>>>> Cheers,Gretchen >>>>>> Gretchen HalpertGNSI past-president (Gail, I owe you the >>>>>> tiara.)Elmira, [log in to unmask] >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>>> Frank Ippolito >>>> Principal Scientific Assistant >>>> Div. Vertebrate Paleontology >>>> American Museum of Natural History >>>> Central Park West at 79th Street >>>> NY NY 10024 >>>> (212) 769-5812 >>>> [log in to unmask] >>>> http://www.productionpost.com >>>> http://research.amnh.org/~esg/ >>> >>