Thanks to all of you for posting your totally valuable information-- this
is a fantastic group!  I'll be fine now thanks to you.
Much appreciated,
Marlene

On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 10:14 AM David Mazierski <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

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> I have been ‘burned’ by Wacom so many times. I’ve used their tablets since
> 1992 and I hate their EOL (“end of life”) driver policy, which means you
> have to dispose of a perfectly functional piece of hardware because they
> refuse to upgrade their driver for a new version of the operating system.
> I’ve switched to Huion for my tablet needs and have not looked back.
>
> D.
>
> On Jan 20, 2023, at 9:49 AM, Marlene Donnelly <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
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> Thanks so much, Jeremy!
> Much appreciated,
> Marlene
>
> On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 11:48 PM Jeremy Swan <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
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>> ------------------------------
>> I guess it depends on your workflow… I’ve tried using Astropad to control
>> my screen and i didn’t really like it compared to my old Cintiq, mostly
>> because I missed the physical buttons. Here’s a tutorial on how to use it:
>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.creativebloq.com/how-to/how-to-use-an-ipad-as-a-drawing-tablet-with-a-pc__;!!PvXuogZ4sRB2p-tU!Fk1e2kgmsfq6RWPE_7g88xK9MIq_CyRthzKwbq1SQIYnDW7LsttdO7wweXfnnYFaJKeozU7Ea1kPVS6fBTlnzVMJJsl4TA$ 
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>>
>> I ended up using adobe photoshop on my iPad for drawing, save to adobe
>> cloud and then open on my computer for advanced blending and to pick up
>> where the limited iPad app failed. It’s far from perfect and would
>> sometimes create multiple versions or a file, and was sometimes slow to
>> sync and hand off  between the platforms. That said, the form factor of the
>> iPad is pretty nice. There are covers that make it feel more like paper,
>> but most of the pros I know use apps other than photoshop for drawing.
>> Specifically procreate: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://procreate.com/__;!!PvXuogZ4sRB2p-tU!Fk1e2kgmsfq6RWPE_7g88xK9MIq_CyRthzKwbq1SQIYnDW7LsttdO7wweXfnnYFaJKeozU7Ea1kPVS6fBTlnzVPb2-FtoA$ 
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>>
>> If you’re hesitant to make the switch because you’re in the middle of a
>> project, you could pick up a used tablet, to save on the learning curve a
>> bit. I see the old cintiq models which were selling for $2000+ 12-13 years
>> ago going for $200-300 on eBay now, which might be worth a shot. However
>> the low end “Wacom One” is only $400 and I saw there is a 30 day trial
>> available if you wanted to try before you decide, which was what I meant
>> with the iPad/pencil suggestion.  If the iPad fits into your workflow, it
>> sure is convenient!
>>
>> -Jeremy
>>
>> On Jan 19, 2023, at 8:27 PM, Marlene Donnelly <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
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>> Thanks so much, and I have one, but am totally clueless as to how to hook
>> this to my iMac and photoshop?  As you can see, I pass up no opportunity to
>> display my ignorance!
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 7:01 PM Jeremy Swan <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>
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>>> Try an iPad with Apple Pencil if you haven’t yet!
>>>
>>> -Jeremy
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>>>
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>>> On Jan 19, 2023, at 6:45 PM, Marlene Donnelly <[log in to unmask]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
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>>> Hi all,
>>> My poor old Wacom Intuos3 just got snuffed today during my upgrade to
>>> Ventura 13.1 (after a mere 17 years or so).
>>>
>>> Naturally I'm right on top of a deadline and have no idea what I
>>> should be replacing it with without spending a huge amount of money.  All
>>> suggestions welcome!
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> Marlene
>>>
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