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I have a very expensive, top end, name brand PC at work and at home I have a
generic PC that was about as cheap as one could buy. The machine at work has
had a hard disc replacement but the one at home powers on not withstanding
the abuse the kids give it. I think marketing dollars may be the biggest
difference between the two. I really appreciate the incredibly well informed
comments put forward by some of the regulars on this list.
Cheers,
        Will

> -----Original Message-----
> From: SciArt-L Discussion List-for Natural Science Illustration-
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Frank Ippolito
> Sent: Wednesday, 19 May 2004 3:44 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Mac or PC?
>
>
> TCO has been touted by MAC for many years. Alas, it is easy to slant
> numbers to promote an argument for either platform. Whenever a truely
> independent researcher looks at the numbers, it seems that
> the validity of
> the TCO argument evaporates into a dead heat.
>
>  http://www.newsfactor.com/perl/story/22738.html
>
> What is often overlooked is that "average" numbers don't tell
> the whole
> story. My studio isn't populated with examples of  "average"
> workstations.
> I carefully research the hardware & software choices I make. I pay a
> (usually) small premium upfront for the parts that are
> considered reliable.
> The result of being an educated consumer is that I greatly
> reduce the odds
> of having to fill anything in on that "support personel" line. I have
> stayed with PC this last round of upgrades because this equation has
> allowed me to buy a more powerful machine (over the then
> current top of the
> line MAC)... for less money.... which has remained
> reliable.... and (most
> importantly!) was significantly more up-gradable than the
> Apple offering.
> This last point has weighed quite strongly in my choices over the last
> decade.
>
> Buying a PC is no different than buying a car. If you simply
> go with the
> pop offering, you get middle of the road performance and you
> better buy
> into that extended warranty.
>
> Frank
>
>
> >      Often Macs have a higher initial purchase price,
> though this has
> >become less of an issue over the last several years,
> especially on the high
> >end. In fact many times these days Mac portables and
> PowerMacs actually
> >have a lower cost than equivalent PCs. (Equivalent being the
> key word here.
> >A PowerMac G5 can not be compared to a bargain consumer PC)
> However, all
> >the studies I've seen (and no, they weren't all paid for by
> Apple) show
> >that Macs are significantly less expensive when you look at
> the total cost
> >of ownership over the life of the computer, and that
> ultimately Macs give
> >you a higher return on investment.  Jeremy Stoller
> >Senior Graphic Artist
> >California Science Center
> >(213) 744-2532
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> >www.CaliforniaScienceCenter.org   ----------
> >From:  SciArt-L Discussion List-for Natural Science
> Illustration- on behalf
> >of William Smith
> >Reply To:      [log in to unmask]
> >Sent:  Monday, May 17, 2004 4:46 PM
> >To:    [log in to unmask]
> >Subject:       Re: Mac or PC?   What about costs? In Australia any
> >peripheral or accessory seems to cost
> >more for a mac as well as initial outlay and upgrade costs?   >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >> From: SciArt-L Discussion List-for Natural Science Illustration-
> >> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Britt Griswold
> >> Sent: Monday, 17 May 2004 11:51 PM
> >> To: [log in to unmask]
> >> Subject: Re: Mac or PC?
> >>
> >>
> >>>Yes, I would like to work on location in a studio of
> >>>   so that are all mac?
> >>>But, as jeremy said, I dont want to buy photoshop for
> >>>both the systems though and I never got to grips with
> >>>   Macs seem to be good for graphical
> >>>software, but its my perception that the PC is a
> >>>better all round computer.
> >>>    Looks like its leaning towards me keeping the mac
> >>>now (which is dissapointing, I was looking forward to
> >>>going on a spending spree in PC world!)
> >>>
> >>
> >> PC can be bad or good. Macs can be bad or good. It all depends on
> >> what you want to do, who you will use for tech support (if anyone).
> >> You will find 3 programs that will do a job badly for every one you
> >> will find on a mac. IE there are a lot of programs
> available for the
> >> PC that have nothing to do with the Graphics industry. You
> will find
> >> most mainstream software available on both platforms. You will find
> >> more viruses on a PC. You will find more specialized scientific
> >> software on a Unix or Lunix box. A Mac will run this as
> well. If all
> >> depends on what you are comfortable with. These days you will find
> >> many shops using both. The Mac is doing very well in certain market
> >> segments, but you can always find someone using a PC anywhere.
> >>
> >> Britt
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