Hi Mieke

I somehow totally missed your response.

You are so right in every thing you have said.





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Dear all,


Although I am not sure also, I think it is a beluga whale, Delphinapterus leucas. This would be the first animal you think of, since the pictures are from Russia, but I can imagine that the teeth got everyone on the wrong track. The length and the body shape are correct with that of a beluga.


For comparison, see: http://www.skullsunlimited.com/cetacea.htm and http://www.skullsunlimited.com/graphics/tq-238-lg.jpg


The issue with the teeth was also troublesome for me, until I saw the 8th picture: http://www.englishrussia.com/images/russian_sakhalin_monster/monster8.jpg

It looks as if the teeth are broken somehow. The order of the teeth and the shape of the jaw are as if from a beluga whale.


The reason why I think it isn't a hoax is because the total looks natural, even with the large skin like rubble on the top of the skull: Belugas have a large amount of soft tissue on their heads and are famous for skin shedding every year. The skull is definitely a sea mammal skull: the nose is not visible and the shape of the jaw is too "sophisticated" for a reptile. And I can't think of any current herbivore that has a teeth order like a carnivore.




P.S. I love the skeksis!


From: SciArt-L Discussion List-for Natural Science Illustration- [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of amanda
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I'm with Jeremy on this one. It's a skeksis alright (or a mystic)

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Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 3:02 PM

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I found out what it is!  I knew this thing looked familiar!

It's a skeksis!

Here's a picture:

On 9/8/06, Britt Griswold <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

There are some alternate photos (too small) here:
http://www.boingboing.net/ Bottom of the page.

I think the claim of hair is a bit suspect; the
decomposition is advanced. That stringy stuff
could be anything.

It is definitely whale-like. The teeth are either
very worn down or very unusual.

Check this out too:
< http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,20372915-5006003,00.html>

This one is interesting also:
<http://www.gateway2russia.com/st/art_151306.php >

Cryptozoology is soo much fun!


>Wow Karl,
>At first I thought it was a Sei whale, but the
>tail doesn't look right. Maybe it's a dragon?
>Karl Gehrman < [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>Ok I know this is on topic but I just had to see
>if one of you has any idea what the creature
>pictured at this link is ?
>I think there a few skull collectors on the list a maybe a taxidermist.
>At first I thought it was a porpoise of some kind.
>But the tail end is all wrong.
>But look at those teeth, they look flat like plant eaters!
>It does not seem to be fake, but the "hide" could be covering something.
>Any ideas?
><http://englishrussia.com/?p=251> http://englishrussia.com/?p=251

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