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Yes, I'm afraid so. I felt a bit foolish about my investment. B On Jun 25, 2013, at 06:34 PM, Linda Feltner <[log in to unmask]> wrote: So, the bumps they make, or the indents, keep the paper from lying flat under the mat? L. _____________________ Linda M. Feltner Artist, LLC P.O. Box 325 Hereford, AZ 85615 (520) 803-0538 www.lindafeltner.com On Jun 25, 2013, at 3:31 PM, Brie Dodson wrote: Several papers. The deep ripples are outside the picture area, for sure; but within the margin I would normally preserve behind the mat. Getting rid of them would require me to have a very narrow margin. B Need to leave or subscribe to the Sciart-L listserv? Follow the instructions at http://www.gnsi.org/resources/reviews/gnsi-sciart-l-listserv