I believe the original quote was from Admiral Farragut at the battle of
Mobile Bay (1864)

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On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 6:40 AM, Anne Runyon <[log in to unmask]>wrote:

>   Bruce, You have me there ... I just heard the stories (while growing
> up) about the torpedoes, and about the German subs prowling off the coast
> ... but my mother used that expression all the time.
> Annie
>  from Bruce-
>  Both tracing and free-hand have their place, I do believe.  The latter
> is much more satisfying but time is money, as Anne noted.  A combination of
> the two is very useful when on a maddd deadline.
> And yes, Anne, I do remember torpedoes.  I even remember the war in which
> they played a great part.
> :)b
> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Anne Runyon <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
> Thanks. Well said ... and I do like new tools. Not a complete old fogie!
>>   Annie
>>  Hi Anne: I agree. We need to refresh our love of drawing every chance
>> we get. However as a business person - Time is Money - and it's just
>> another tool to get us there faster. I use any tool that will help, but not
>> to the loss of my skills developed over a long time. I can't give those
>> up.  If we foster the love of hand drawing, share it, encourage it, then it
>> will not be lost. There will always be people who use tracing methods and
>> it may become their "style". Even in fine art the frequency in which photos
>> are directly duplicated is common. I deeply believe that those who keep at
>> it, keep drawing, will never lose it, it is up to the individual to nourish
>> it.
>>  A tool is a tool is a tool... they come and go. Drawing Skills Last!
>> Cheers,
>> Linda
>>     _____________________
>> On Jun 4, 2013, at 11:43 AM, Anne Runyon wrote:
>>  Cool gadget, yes, but ...  More robots ... More zombies ... Where is
>> the heart and soul of “life drawing” art going? Annie
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