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No real ratio given, they folks on the show crammed in the fruit as tight as they could on each layer, then squeezed in the salt to fully cover the fruit and fill any voids that were left before adding the next layer of fruit.


On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 8:59 AM, Nest ffynnon <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
The layer of oil on the top would prevent oxygen from entering, which would prevent spoiling.   What is the ratio of salt to fruit?

Nest



On Jul 21, 2013, at 1:03 AM, Russ Myrick wrote:

I just saw a thing about pickled/salted fruits from the Mid-East not to long ago on the LWN channel.
Soak fresh citrus fruit (Oranges, Limes, Lemons, Grapefruit, etc.) in fresh, or distilled water, over night.
Cut the fruit into cross sectioned halves, then cut each half, most of the way through, into quarters so that the halves can be laid out into 4 petal stars.
Pack a layer of fruit halves into the bottom of a 1 gallon, or 1/2 gallon, jar. They used clay ones in the beginning of the show, but used glass ones later on, so either should work just fine.
Cover the fruit and any empty spaces with pickling/canning salt.
Repeat until the jar is mostly full (No more than 1 inch below the neck of the jar), the closer to the neck the better.
Make sure the contents are tightly packed.
Cover the contents with at least 1/4 inch of olive oil. They did not completely fill the jars with olive oil.
Store in a cool, dry place for a minimum of 6 weeks before consuming/using the contents. This renders the fruit pulp/meat, producing the pickle juice. The rinds will settle to the bottom of the jar, and can be used for snacking, or for cooking later on. The pulp & juice mix is used for drinking, or flavoring.
Be sure to draw off the oil before consuming the juice or rinds.

According  to the show's hosts, this method was capable of storing the fruit for up to 10 years without spoilage.


On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 11:56 PM, Nest ffynnon <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Thank you!

Again, I'm looking for pickle juice that has electrolites.
Probably for veggies, though not necessarily only cucumbers.

My favorite appetizer EVER was pickled watermelon rind wrapped in bacon.

I'll peruse the files and see what I can find.

Nest




On Jul 20, 2013, at 11:22 PM, Stefan li Rous wrote:

Well, are you thinking of pickled meats? pickled vegetables or just pickled cucumbers?

Today, when people think of "pickles", the latter is the only thing they think of. But the subject is really much bigger than that. And yes, when I joined the SCA, when I thought of "pickles", I thought of only the sliced ones put on hamburgers. :-)

Yes, there are medieval (or at least period) recipes for pickled cucumbers, but also for many other things.

Speaking of Pennsic, pickling items is one way to keep them safe through the heat of Pennsic.

Check these files in the Florilegium.
pickled-eggs-msg (16K) 5/21/13 Period pickled eggs. Recipes.
http://www.florilegium.org/files/FOOD/pickled-eggs-msg.html

pickled-foods-msg (149K) 5/21/13 Medieval pickled food. recipes.
http://www.florilegium.org/files/FOOD/pickled-foods-msg.html

compost-msg (88K) 12/ 1/09 A pickled food of fruits and vegetables.
http://www.florilegium.org/files/FOOD/compost-msg.html

pickled-fish-msg (40K) 7/28/11 Pickled fish. Either by storing in vinegar or by the action of lactic acid.
http://www.florilegium.org/files/FOOD-MEATS/pickled-fish-msg.html

pickled-meats-msg (60K) 3/20/08 Period pickled meats. Lord's Salt. recipes.
http://www.florilegium.org/files/FOOD-MEATS/pickled-meats-msg.html

sauerkraut-msg (46K) 6/27/13 Period sauerkraut and pickled cabbage.
http://www.florilegium.org/files/FOOD-VEGETABLES/sauerkraut-msg.html

And a few more files having to do with pickling, for those homebound during Pennsic. :-)
Vinegar-art (20K) 5/26/01 "What's so special about Vinegar?" by Mistress Christianna MacGrain.
http://www.florilegium.org/files/FOOD/Vinegar-art.html

Vinegar-NJFCC-art (18K) 10/23/01 "Vinegar: Not Just for Cleaning Coffeepots" by THL Mirin ben DhIarmait.
http://www.florilegium.org/files/FOOD/Vinegar-NJFCC-art.html

vinegar-msg (128K) 3/24/12 Vinegar in period. Making vinegar.
http://www.florilegium.org/files/FOOD/vinegar-msg.html

I hope you find these useful.

Stefan

On Jul 20, 2013, at 10:29 AM, Nest ffynnon <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

I realize that asking a question during Pennsic is possibly not the best time, but since I know there are MANY Calontiri not attending this year, I ask:

Are there any medieval recipes for pickles?
Considering how much pickle juice is consumed on the battlefield and off, I'm thinking about making pickles for next summer.

Nest

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