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On 11/19/13, Sarah Steinhoff <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Hello Calontir!  In an effort to continue to promote sharing information and
> updates on what is happening in the Kingdom, a new Yahoo group has been
> created as an out-going only information source to update the Kingdom on
> news and information!
>
> So, to join the Calontir News group, go to groups.yahoo.com and search for
> Calontir News.  I look forward to continuing to promote and spread the
> News!
>
> Any questions, or comments, please feel free to contact me either here
> (Sarah Beckett) or by e-mail at [log in to unmask] Thanks!
>
> YIS
> Roise inghean ui Rhauidhrie
> Kingdom Social Media Officer
>
> Please share with all groups and lists.
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 5:00 AM, CALONTIR automatic digest system
> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> There are 25 messages totaling 1408 lines in this issue.
>
> Topics of the day:
>
>   1. CALONTIR Digest - 8 Nov 2013 to 9 Nov 2013 (#2013-141) (20)
>   2. message about Toys for Tots from the Queen (2)
>   3. Making rules (2)
>   4. Fwd: [B3R List] Fwd: [Announcements] Newcomer's Portal Launch
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date:    Tue, 12 Nov 2013 09:51:47 -0500
> From:    Mark Schuldenfrei <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: CALONTIR Digest - 8 Nov 2013 to 9 Nov 2013 (#2013-141)
>
> On 11/11/2013 8:32 PM, Daniel Brizendine wrote:
>> Roise I would ask you how you feel with your interperation of the
>> newsletter within current Kingdom law.  It is not in fact the issue that
>> what is legal in the East or An Tir or any other Kingdom potentially not
>> legal in the Calontir.  As a newbie I am just asking a question, please
>> remember I am still newish.
>
> Calontir must and should do what works for Calontir.
>
> In this particular case, the East Kingdom Gazette is not an
> SCA activity.  It's written and managed by SCA people, and
> they write about the SCA.  But it's no different than if it
> was written by Contract Bridge people about Contract
> Bridge.
>
> It's not unusual for people to think "it has something to do
> with the SCA, the SCA must run it and make rules about it".
> That's so common, friends of mine have been making silly
> references to it for nigh onto 20 years. [1]
>
> But it's not necessary.  Sometimes, the best thing to do (like
> the original Kingdom web pages and Kingdom mailing lists,
> or current Kingdom Facebook pages) is to just do things, and
> see if the Corporation ever catches up. :-)
>
>     Tibor
>
> [1] I think my friend Steffan coined the Cascading Bureaucracy Meme
>      about 20 years ago:
>      "We can, therefore we do.
>      We do, therefore we have always done.
>      We have always done, therefore we must always do.
>      We must always do, therefore an officer must oversee the doing.
>      There is an officer, therefore we must report.
>      We must report, else we will lose our tax status."
>
>      Compare and contrast to "Justin's Rules of Good Bureaucracy":
>      Don't make a Law if a Policy will do.
>      Don't make a Policy if Custom suffices decently well.
>      And don't try to change Custom if things aren't broken
>            in the first place"
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Tue, 12 Nov 2013 09:47:31 -0600
> From:    "McDonald, Zachary" <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: CALONTIR Digest - 8 Nov 2013 to 9 Nov 2013 (#2013-141)
>
> In my opinion if we are allocating space for meeting at an event it is an
> official endeavor. It seems that we have a problem with fragmentation
> ofinformation already. I would rather see us strive to improve
> existing areas
> of communication. How many groups have Calendars and websites that are not
> up-to-date. Why Is it necessary to sign up for a Facebook page and a yahoo
> group to get a full picture of what is going on in most groups? I am sure
> the others that disagree with me but I would like to see the energy that
> would be put into this project put into consolidating and improving our
> existing communication. Please forgive me if this seems like a rant. I
> usually like most folks lurk on this list because I wish to know what is
> going on in the kingdom and for a change I thought I would add my thoughts
> to the discussion
>
>
> Regards,
>
> *LD Zachariah Lochrie*
> *(mka) Zachary McDonald*
>
> o()xxxx[{::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 8:51 AM, Mark Schuldenfrei <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> On 11/11/2013 8:32 PM, Daniel Brizendine wrote:
>>
>>> Roise I would ask you how you feel with your interperation of the
>>> newsletter within current Kingdom law.  It is not in fact the issue that
>>> what is legal in the East or An Tir or any other Kingdom potentially not
>>> legal in the Calontir.  As a newbie I am just asking a question, please
>>> remember I am still newish.
>>>
>>
>> Calontir must and should do what works for Calontir.
>>
>> In this particular case, the East Kingdom Gazette is not an
>> SCA activity.  It's written and managed by SCA people, and
>> they write about the SCA.  But it's no different than if it
>> was written by Contract Bridge people about Contract
>> Bridge.
>>
>> It's not unusual for people to think "it has something to do
>> with the SCA, the SCA must run it and make rules about it".
>> That's so common, friends of mine have been making silly
>> references to it for nigh onto 20 years. [1]
>>
>> But it's not necessary.  Sometimes, the best thing to do (like
>> the original Kingdom web pages and Kingdom mailing lists,
>> or current Kingdom Facebook pages) is to just do things, and
>> see if the Corporation ever catches up. :-)
>>
>>         Tibor
>>
>> [1] I think my friend Steffan coined the Cascading Bureaucracy Meme
>>     about 20 years ago:
>>     "We can, therefore we do.
>>     We do, therefore we have always done.
>>     We have always done, therefore we must always do.
>>     We must always do, therefore an officer must oversee the doing.
>>     There is an officer, therefore we must report.
>>     We must report, else we will lose our tax status."
>>
>>     Compare and contrast to "Justin's Rules of Good Bureaucracy":
>>     Don't make a Law if a Policy will do.
>>     Don't make a Policy if Custom suffices decently well.
>>     And don't try to change Custom if things aren't broken
>>           in the first place"
>>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Tue, 12 Nov 2013 10:01:27 -0600
> From:    Ted Eisenstein <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: CALONTIR Digest - 8 Nov 2013 to 9 Nov 2013 (#2013-141)
>
> On 11/12/13 9:47 AM, McDonald, Zachary wrote:
>> Why Is it necessary to sign up for a Facebook page
>> and a yahoo group to get a full picture of what is going on in most
>> groups? I am sure the others that disagree with me but I would like to
>> see the energy that would be put into this project put into
>> consolidating and improving our existing communication.
>
> I believe the gazette-thing is for stuff that's non-official, and
> therefore not quite appropriate for official news channels - a couple
> inviting people over for a post-revel after an event, wedding
> announcements, highly unofficial (or, heck, even slightly unofficial)
> meetings of a sewing circle and terrorist society, "we're planning
> on going to [period museum exhibit] if anyone else wants to join in"
> announcement.
>
> Sort of what the Calontir List used to do, way back when in the
> distant past that the memory of man runneth not to the contrary
> (aka, four months ago or so). Water cooler talk combined with a
> departmental bulletin board, perhaps?
>
>
> Alban
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Tue, 12 Nov 2013 11:13:05 -0500
> From:    Mark Schuldenfrei <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: CALONTIR Digest - 8 Nov 2013 to 9 Nov 2013 (#2013-141)
>
> On 11/12/2013 9:51 AM, Mark Schuldenfrei wrote:
>> [1] I think my friend Steffan coined the Cascading Bureaucracy Meme
>>      about 20 years ago:
>>      "We can, therefore we do.
>>      We do, therefore we have always done.
>>      We have always done, therefore we must always do.
>>      We must always do, therefore an officer must oversee the doing.
>>      There is an officer, therefore we must report.
>>      We must report, else we will lose our tax status."
>>
>>      Compare and contrast to "Justin's Rules of Good Bureaucracy":
>>      Don't make a Law if a Policy will do.
>>      Don't make a Policy if Custom suffices decently well.
>>      And don't try to change Custom if things aren't broken
>>            in the first place"
>
> Drx asked me to add another of my favorites from Silverwings
> Laws, written by Calontir's own Marcus de la Foret:
>
> "There is no niche in the SCA so small that it is safe from some dweeb
> installing a megalithic bureaucracy to regulate it as a favor to the
> society.
>
> (a)There will eventually be a monarch who will reward this dweeb with a
> peerage for installing this atrocity. This will gladden the hearts of
> dweebs and send them in search of their own niche to bless."
>
>     Tibor, friend of Marcus, no friend of dweebs. :-)
>     Friend of Goobs, with thanks to Pavel's memory for the lesson.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Tue, 12 Nov 2013 11:15:57 -0500
> From:    Mark Schuldenfrei <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: CALONTIR Digest - 8 Nov 2013 to 9 Nov 2013 (#2013-141)
>
> On 11/12/2013 11:01 AM, Ted Eisenstein wrote:
>> I believe the gazette-thing is for
>
> Go read it.
>
> http://eastkingdomgazette.org/
>
> If you don't think that's a fine magazine-like site with
> useful adjunct information - don't imitate it.
>
> The rest of you, have a great time building Calontir's own
> stupendous version. :-)
>
>     Tibor
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Tue, 12 Nov 2013 10:19:52 -0600
> From:    Patrick Anderson <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: CALONTIR Digest - 8 Nov 2013 to 9 Nov 2013 (#2013-141)
>
> As one of the chief bureaucrats of the SCA, I resemble this remark, and
> am doing my best to cut it down.
>
> Gabriel
>
> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013, at 10:13 AM, Mark Schuldenfrei wrote:
>> On 11/12/2013 9:51 AM, Mark Schuldenfrei wrote:
>> > [1] I think my friend Steffan coined the Cascading Bureaucracy Meme
>> >      about 20 years ago:
>> >      "We can, therefore we do.
>> >      We do, therefore we have always done.
>> >      We have always done, therefore we must always do.
>> >      We must always do, therefore an officer must oversee the doing.
>> >      There is an officer, therefore we must report.
>> >      We must report, else we will lose our tax status."
>> >
>> >      Compare and contrast to "Justin's Rules of Good Bureaucracy":
>> >      Don't make a Law if a Policy will do.
>> >      Don't make a Policy if Custom suffices decently well.
>> >      And don't try to change Custom if things aren't broken
>> >            in the first place"
>>
>> Drx asked me to add another of my favorites from Silverwings
>> Laws, written by Calontir's own Marcus de la Foret:
>>
>> "There is no niche in the SCA so small that it is safe from some dweeb
>> installing a megalithic bureaucracy to regulate it as a favor to the
>> society.
>>
>> (a)There will eventually be a monarch who will reward this dweeb with a
>> peerage for installing this atrocity. This will gladden the hearts of
>> dweebs and send them in search of their own niche to bless."
>>
>>     Tibor, friend of Marcus, no friend of dweebs. :-)
>>     Friend of Goobs, with thanks to Pavel's memory for the lesson.
>
>
> --
> Patrick Anderson
> [log in to unmask]
> "No matter how much you feed the wolf,
> he keeps looking at the forest." --Ilse Lehiste
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Tue, 12 Nov 2013 10:28:34 -0600
> From:    Kat Johnson <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: CALONTIR Digest - 8 Nov 2013 to 9 Nov 2013 (#2013-141)
>
> Actually, I think you kinda did the opposite, Gabe.
>
> Q
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Nov 12, 2013, at 10:19 AM, Patrick Anderson <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> As one of the chief bureaucrats of the SCA, I resemble this remark, and
>> am doing my best to cut it down.
>>
>> Gabriel
>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013, at 10:13 AM, Mark Schuldenfrei wrote:
>>>> On 11/12/2013 9:51 AM, Mark Schuldenfrei wrote:
>>>> [1] I think my friend Steffan coined the Cascading Bureaucracy Meme
>>>>     about 20 years ago:
>>>>     "We can, therefore we do.
>>>>     We do, therefore we have always done.
>>>>     We have always done, therefore we must always do.
>>>>     We must always do, therefore an officer must oversee the doing.
>>>>     There is an officer, therefore we must report.
>>>>     We must report, else we will lose our tax status."
>>>>
>>>>     Compare and contrast to "Justin's Rules of Good Bureaucracy":
>>>>     Don't make a Law if a Policy will do.
>>>>     Don't make a Policy if Custom suffices decently well.
>>>>     And don't try to change Custom if things aren't broken
>>>>           in the first place"
>>>
>>> Drx asked me to add another of my favorites from Silverwings
>>> Laws, written by Calontir's own Marcus de la Foret:
>>>
>>> "There is no niche in the SCA so small that it is safe from some dweeb
>>> installing a megalithic bureaucracy to regulate it as a favor to the
>>> society.
>>>
>>> (a)There will eventually be a monarch who will reward this dweeb with a
>>> peerage for installing this atrocity. This will gladden the hearts of
>>> dweebs and send them in search of their own niche to bless."
>>>
>>>    Tibor, friend of Marcus, no friend of dweebs. :-)
>>>    Friend of Goobs, with thanks to Pavel's memory for the lesson.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Patrick Anderson
>> [log in to unmask]
>> "No matter how much you feed the wolf,
>> he keeps looking at the forest." --Ilse Lehiste
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Tue, 12 Nov 2013 10:34:29 -0600
> From:    Patrick Anderson <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: CALONTIR Digest - 8 Nov 2013 to 9 Nov 2013 (#2013-141)
>
> I ran on the platform of reducing jobs! I succeeded!
>
> G
>
> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013, at 10:28 AM, Kat Johnson wrote:
>> Actually, I think you kinda did the opposite, Gabe.
>>
>> Q
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
> --
> Patrick Anderson
> [log in to unmask]
> "No matter how much you feed the wolf,
> he keeps looking at the forest." --Ilse Lehiste
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Tue, 12 Nov 2013 11:08:52 -0600
> From:    Kat Johnson <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: CALONTIR Digest - 8 Nov 2013 to 9 Nov 2013 (#2013-141)
>
> Not to mention, and more important to me, headaches!
>
> Q
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Nov 12, 2013, at 10:34 AM, Patrick Anderson <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I ran on the platform of reducing jobs! I succeeded!
>>
>> G
>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013, at 10:28 AM, Kat Johnson wrote:
>>> Actually, I think you kinda did the opposite, Gabe.
>>>
>>> Q
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>> --
>> Patrick Anderson
>> [log in to unmask]
>> "No matter how much you feed the wolf,
>> he keeps looking at the forest." --Ilse Lehiste
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Tue, 12 Nov 2013 12:15:36 -0500
> From:    Mark Schuldenfrei <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: CALONTIR Digest - 8 Nov 2013 to 9 Nov 2013 (#2013-141)
>
> On 11/12/2013 11:34 AM, Patrick Anderson wrote:
>> I ran on the platform of reducing jobs! I succeeded!
>
> During a recession!
>
> Unemployed and underemployed heralds are now a scourge on
> the countryside, annoying Peers through excess flattery
> and performing unauthorized heraldic visitations in hopes
> of being bought off.
>
> Pregnant women everywhere are being harassed: "have you
> picked a name yet for your child?  I can help: it can
> be really authentic!  George is already taken, but I can
> help!"
>
> Everywhere you go, graffiti is scrawled on corporate
> logos and sports team images: "this is offensive for
> conflict", "bad contrast" "color on color!!!11leventybang!"
>
> Thanks a lot, you bum.  Look what you did.
>
>     Tibor :-) :-)
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Tue, 12 Nov 2013 11:21:34 -0600
> From:    Patrick Anderson <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: CALONTIR Digest - 8 Nov 2013 to 9 Nov 2013 (#2013-141)
>
> I was thinking of the other job where trained and warranted bearers of
> beverages were made unemployed, forced to volunteer their services.
>
> With the heralds, I have merely forced technology upon them, making many
> go through remedial and adult education courses, or be out on the
> streets, looking for Peers (preferably of stature but really any) to
> attach themselves to.
>
> Gabriel
> (who really can't do better than Tibor's comment)
>
> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013, at 11:15 AM, Mark Schuldenfrei wrote:
>> On 11/12/2013 11:34 AM, Patrick Anderson wrote:
>> > I ran on the platform of reducing jobs! I succeeded!
>>
>> During a recession!
>>
>> Unemployed and underemployed heralds are now a scourge on
>> the countryside, annoying Peers through excess flattery
>> and performing unauthorized heraldic visitations in hopes
>> of being bought off.
>>
>> Pregnant women everywhere are being harassed: "have you
>> picked a name yet for your child?  I can help: it can
>> be really authentic!  George is already taken, but I can
>> help!"
>>
>> Everywhere you go, graffiti is scrawled on corporate
>> logos and sports team images: "this is offensive for
>> conflict", "bad contrast" "color on color!!!11leventybang!"
>>
>> Thanks a lot, you bum.  Look what you did.
>>
>>     Tibor :-) :-)
>
>
> --
> Patrick Anderson
> [log in to unmask]
> "No matter how much you feed the wolf,
> he keeps looking at the forest." --Ilse Lehiste
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Tue, 12 Nov 2013 11:35:11 -0600
> From:    Patricia Galbraith <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: CALONTIR Digest - 8 Nov 2013 to 9 Nov 2013 (#2013-141)
>
> I love you guys.
>
> That is all . . .
>
>> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 11:21:34 -0600
>> From: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [CALONTIR] CALONTIR Digest - 8 Nov 2013 to 9 Nov 2013
>> (#2013-141)
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>
>> I was thinking of the other job where trained and warranted bearers of
>> beverages were made unemployed, forced to volunteer their services.
>>
>> With the heralds, I have merely forced technology upon them, making many
>> go through remedial and adult education courses, or be out on the
>> streets, looking for Peers (preferably of stature but really any) to
>> attach themselves to.
>>
>> Gabriel
>> (who really can't do better than Tibor's comment)
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013, at 11:15 AM, Mark Schuldenfrei wrote:
>> > On 11/12/2013 11:34 AM, Patrick Anderson wrote:
>> > > I ran on the platform of reducing jobs! I succeeded!
>> >
>> > During a recession!
>> >
>> > Unemployed and underemployed heralds are now a scourge on
>> > the countryside, annoying Peers through excess flattery
>> > and performing unauthorized heraldic visitations in hopes
>> > of being bought off.
>> >
>> > Pregnant women everywhere are being harassed: "have you
>> > picked a name yet for your child?  I can help: it can
>> > be really authentic!  George is already taken, but I can
>> > help!"
>> >
>> > Everywhere you go, graffiti is scrawled on corporate
>> > logos and sports team images: "this is offensive for
>> > conflict", "bad contrast" "color on color!!!11leventybang!"
>> >
>> > Thanks a lot, you bum.  Look what you did.
>> >
>> >     Tibor :-) :-)
>>
>>
>> --
>> Patrick Anderson
>> [log in to unmask]
>> "No matter how much you feed the wolf,
>> he keeps looking at the forest." --Ilse Lehiste
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Tue, 12 Nov 2013 09:35:13 -0800
> From:    Sakurai no Jirou Takeo <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: message about Toys for Tots from the Queen
>
> Children of the Heartland,
>
> How are you doing on your toy collection for Tots for Tots? Don't forget
> when you turn them in to put the group "Kids of Calontir" next to your name.
> That way we can count up how many toys the kids bring!  yay!
>
> Our goal is to collect as many toys as we can for the underprivileged kids
> in our area. That way they get fun toys for the holidays.
>
> Can't wait to see each of you! Be sure to come find me during the day when I
> am sitting in the throne, and I will give you a gift!
>
> See you in four days!
>
> Issabell
>
>
> Sakurai no Jirou Takeo (aka Jeremiah Jennings)
> Kingdom of Calontir
> Barony of Forgotten Sea
> Canton of Aston Tor
> Champagne Players
> Argent, a torii gate gules and on
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Tue, 12 Nov 2013 11:40:08 -0600
> From:    Gwendolyn <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: message about Toys for Tots from the Queen
>
> Thank you for sharing info from Facebook with the list. It took me a little
> while to figure out what you were doing. It might be good to note which
> messages are shared from FB, so that we know the source. Thanks again for
> taking on this task!
>
> Gwendolyn
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 12, 2013, at 11:35 AM, Sakurai no Jirou Takeo
> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Children of the Heartland,
>>
>> How are you doing on your toy collection for Tots for Tots? Don't forget
>> when you turn them in to put the group "Kids of Calontir" next to your
>> name. That way we can count up how many toys the kids bring!  yay!
>>
>> Our goal is to collect as many toys as we can for the underprivileged kids
>> in our area. That way they get fun toys for the holidays.
>>
>> Can't wait to see each of you! Be sure to come find me during the day when
>> I am sitting in the throne, and I will give you a gift!
>>
>> See you in four days!
>>
>> Issabell
>>
>> Sakurai no Jirou Takeo (aka Jeremiah Jennings)
>> Kingdom of Calontir
>> Barony of Forgotten Sea
>> Canton of Aston Tor
>> Champagne Players
>> Argent, a torii gate gules and on a chief wavy sable three cherry blossoms
>> argent
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Tue, 12 Nov 2013 11:54:36 -0600
> From:    Kat Johnson <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: CALONTIR Digest - 8 Nov 2013 to 9 Nov 2013 (#2013-141)
>
> Gabe, I went there too and was glad you were able to follow, but I seriously
> want a like button for Tibor's post!!! Hehehe!!
>
> Thanks Tibor! Needed that!
>
> Quiteria
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Nov 12, 2013, at 11:21 AM, Patrick Anderson <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I was thinking of the other job where trained and warranted bearers of
>> beverages were made unemployed, forced to volunteer their services.
>>
>> With the heralds, I have merely forced technology upon them, making many
>> go through remedial and adult education courses, or be out on the
>> streets, looking for Peers (preferably of stature but really any) to
>> attach themselves to.
>>
>> Gabriel
>> (who really can't do better than Tibor's comment)
>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013, at 11:15 AM, Mark Schuldenfrei wrote:
>>>> On 11/12/2013 11:34 AM, Patrick Anderson wrote:
>>>> I ran on the platform of reducing jobs! I succeeded!
>>>
>>> During a recession!
>>>
>>> Unemployed and underemployed heralds are now a scourge on
>>> the countryside, annoying Peers through excess flattery
>>> and performing unauthorized heraldic visitations in hopes
>>> of being bought off.
>>>
>>> Pregnant women everywhere are being harassed: "have you
>>> picked a name yet for your child?  I can help: it can
>>> be really authentic!  George is already taken, but I can
>>> help!"
>>>
>>> Everywhere you go, graffiti is scrawled on corporate
>>> logos and sports team images: "this is offensive for
>>> conflict", "bad contrast" "color on color!!!11leventybang!"
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot, you bum.  Look what you did.
>>>
>>>    Tibor :-) :-)
>>
>>
>> --
>> Patrick Anderson
>> [log in to unmask]
>> "No matter how much you feed the wolf,
>> he keeps looking at the forest." --Ilse Lehiste
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Tue, 12 Nov 2013 13:58:42 -0400
> From:    SJPaterson <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: CALONTIR Digest - 8 Nov 2013 to 9 Nov 2013 (#2013-141)
>
> I *HEART* you, Tibor
>
> -----Original Message-----
> On 11/12/2013 11:01 AM, Ted Eisenstein wrote:
>> I believe the gazette-thing is for
>
> Go read it.
>
> http://eastkingdomgazette.org/
>
> If you don't think that's a fine magazine-like site with
> useful adjunct information - don't imitate it.
>
> The rest of you, have a great time building Calontir's own
> stupendous version. :-)
>
> Tibor
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Tue, 12 Nov 2013 13:09:45 -0500
> From:    Mark Schuldenfrei <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: CALONTIR Digest - 8 Nov 2013 to 9 Nov 2013 (#2013-141)
>
> On 11/12/2013 12:21 PM, Patrick Anderson wrote:
>> I was thinking of the other job where trained and warranted bearers
>> of beverages were made unemployed, forced to volunteer their
>> services.
>
> I have a great idea for a nipple-sterilization service
> for nursing mothers at events.
>
> But I'll need to be made a Kingdom Officer, first.
>
>     Tibor, never afraid to go there.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Tue, 12 Nov 2013 12:24:59 -0600
> From:    Bruce Lapham <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: CALONTIR Digest - 8 Nov 2013 to 9 Nov 2013 (#2013-141)
>
> I was privately asked if a group of individuals who started an online news
> site about Calontir would have to report to the Kingdom Social Media officer
> or perhaps one of the other publications officers.  I responded by saying
> "No."
> Think of it this way.  A group of table top gamers from all over the world
> want to start a website devoted to sharing news about various games, cons,
> and gaming tournaments.  Wizards of the Coast doesn't care as long as the
> group refrains from claiming official status as the voice of WoC, or says
> anything that could be considered libelous.
> As for the question of whether having a meeting at an event constitutes
> official is answered by current Calontir custom, which is NOT to make it an
> official activity.  One example is the group of people who participate in
> the enchanted ground activities.  At one time they had a small area of the
> Lilies site set aside for their very period camp and activities.  Calontir
> did not require them to create any bureaucracy.  I do not see the need to
> break that tradition.
> In short, (too late) the official word of the Calontir Kingdom Seneschal
> is...Have fun making an online newspaper or whatever.  Make sure you clearly
> state that it is not an official publication of the SCA.  Don't print
> anything that would be considered libel.  Don't make me make a rule.
> Calontir doesn't need more officers.
> I remain a servant of the Crown.Maighstir MurdochCalon Steward
>
>> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 10:34:29 -0600
>> From: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [CALONTIR] CALONTIR Digest - 8 Nov 2013 to 9 Nov 2013
>> (#2013-141)
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>
>> I ran on the platform of reducing jobs! I succeeded!
>>
>> G
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013, at 10:28 AM, Kat Johnson wrote:
>> > Actually, I think you kinda did the opposite, Gabe.
>> >
>> > Q
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> --
>> Patrick Anderson
>> [log in to unmask]
>> "No matter how much you feed the wolf,
>> he keeps looking at the forest." --Ilse Lehiste
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Tue, 12 Nov 2013 13:35:06 -0500
> From:    Mark Schuldenfrei <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: CALONTIR Digest - 8 Nov 2013 to 9 Nov 2013 (#2013-141)
>
> On 11/12/2013 1:24 PM, Bruce Lapham wrote:
>> Don't make me make a rule.
>
> Words to live by.
>
> Unless Blood of Heroes, just sayin'
>
>     Tibor, has his rule already picked out, will never use it.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Tue, 12 Nov 2013 13:09:26 -0600
> From:    Jenna <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Making rules
>
> It is still a matter of pride to me that I inadvertently caused two HR memos
> in my 13 years at my old job.  Especially the one about the handgun.
>
> Jenna
>
> On Nov 12, 2013, at 12:35 PM, Mark Schuldenfrei <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> On 11/12/2013 1:24 PM, Bruce Lapham wrote:
>>> Don't make me make a rule.
>>
>> Words to live by.
>>
>> Unless Blood of Heroes, just sayin'
>>
>>    Tibor, has his rule already picked out, will never use it.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Tue, 12 Nov 2013 13:35:41 -0600
> From:    Ted Eisenstein <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: CALONTIR Digest - 8 Nov 2013 to 9 Nov 2013 (#2013-141)
>
> On 11/12/13 12:35 PM, Mark Schuldenfrei wrote:
>> On 11/12/2013 1:24 PM, Bruce Lapham wrote:
>>> Don't make me make a rule.
>
> Too late. The official rule is "don't make him make
> a rule".
>
> Alban
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Tue, 12 Nov 2013 15:09:40 -0600
> From:    Eowyth ža Sišend <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Fwd: [B3R List] Fwd: [Announcements] Newcomer's Portal Launch
>
> Just FYI. And it's pretty cool to look at the front page photos and spot
> Calontir in 2 (at least) of the 16 cover photos. :)
>
> -Eowyth
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Gwendolyn <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 2:35 PM
> Subject: [B3R List] Fwd: [Announcements] Newcomer's Portal Launch
> To: B3R List -new <[log in to unmask]>
>
>
> FYI
>
> Gwendolyn
>
> *From:* [log in to unmask]
> *Date:* November 12, 2013, 1:01:38 PM CST
> *To:* [log in to unmask]
> *Subject:* *[Announcements] Newcomer's Portal Launch*
> *Reply-To:* [log in to unmask]
>
> The Society would like to announce the launch of our new Online Newcomer's
> Portal! This interactive, media-rich website will provide an engaging new
> way for those discovering our organization to learn more about us, get
> excited about what we do, and get in touch with local branches.
> http://welcome.sca.org/
> A big thank you to all our writers, photographers, and artists for their
> contributions to this new site! If you have any questions or feedback for
> the new site, please contact the project director Lord Tobias Morgan at
> [log in to unmask]
>
> Avery W. Krouse
> Society Social Media Officer
> Deputy Society Seneschal for Special Projects
>
> Comments are strongly encouraged and can be sent to:
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Tue, 12 Nov 2013 17:27:38 -0600
> From:    Kirk Poore <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: CALONTIR Digest - 8 Nov 2013 to 9 Nov 2013 (#2013-141)
>
> On 11/12/2013 1:35 PM, Ted Eisenstein wrote:
>> On 11/12/13 12:35 PM, Mark Schuldenfrei wrote:
>>> On 11/12/2013 1:24 PM, Bruce Lapham wrote:
>>>> Don't make me make a rule.
>>
>> Too late. The official rule is "don't make him make
>> a rule".
>>
>> Alban
>>
> That's all well and good, but who's getting thrown in the box?
>
> Anon, not using the crowd as a shield (for once)
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Tue, 12 Nov 2013 21:29:33 -0600
> From:    Lis Schraer <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: CALONTIR Digest - 8 Nov 2013 to 9 Nov 2013 (#2013-141)
>
> On 11/12/2013 11:21 AM, Patrick Anderson wrote:
>> I was thinking of the other job where trained and warranted bearers of
>> beverages were made unemployed, forced to volunteer their services.
>>
>>
> Yeah, I was going to comment on that one. :)
>
> Elasait
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Tue, 12 Nov 2013 18:00:56 -0600
> From:    "Mark S. Harris" <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Making rules
>
> Okay, what were the two rules?
>
> Stefan
>
> On Nov 12, 2013, at 1:09 PM, Jenna <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> It is still a matter of pride to me that I inadvertently caused two HR
>> memos in my 13 years at my old job.  Especially the one about the handgun.
>>
>> Jenna
>>
>> On Nov 12, 2013, at 12:35 PM, Mark Schuldenfrei <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/12/2013 1:24 PM, Bruce Lapham wrote:
>>>> Don't make me make a rule.
>>>
>>> Words to live by.
>>>
>>> Unless Blood of Heroes, just sayin'
>>>
>>>   Tibor, has his rule already picked out, will never use it.
>
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>
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