Hi Maia,

Thanks for the help and all of the advice. I can't believe someone stole
your design! I will definitely ask for a deposit first and maybe put
watermarks when I send digital files in order to try and prevent that from
happening. I like the idea of an hourly rate, since I have a good sense for
how long it takes me to paint mushrooms.

Do you send an estimate of how many hours you think it will take to your
client? Do your clients then have full rights to use the image after you've
sent it to them, or do you get a percentage of the merchandise profits?

Thanks again,

On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Maia Sanders
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> Julie,
> I live in the Bay Area too, (San jose) and I have recently been making
> logos and identity for a series if small dance, martial arts and other
> performing arts schools, all shoestring operations, often non-profits. Here
> is how I handle this type of thing.
> I charge $35 an hour for non-profits ( I can deduct from my taxes), and
> $50 an hour for for-profit schools.
> I frequently have a problem with this kind if client saying "you are the
> artist, you can have free rein to make the design" only to a quagmire of
> revisions and argument between school administrators over my designs.
> Therefore I am very careful to charge hourly and not by the job, or, if
> they want the job quoted entirely, I put a limit on revision- at design
> stage, they get three, and one at finishing stage, then I charge hourly for
> revisions.
> I also ask for 60% payment at final design approval. I have had one client
> walk away with my final design sketch and seen it on a jacket, ineptly
> rendered, three months later- he had given the job to his wife to finish.
> Additionally, I take a design sketch and make several photoshop mockups of
> coffee cups, letterhead, jackets, and bumper stickers- this really excites
> a client, and takes about an hour- usually ensuring they will go for the
> design I favor! And ultimately saving me time and frustration.  It's hard
> for non-visual people to imagine the logo or design across applications.
> Best of luck, by the way, i took a look at your linked work, your
> mushrooms are beautiful!
> Best,
> Maia
> On Wednesday, December 11, 2013, Julie Himes wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> I am new to science illustration, so I'm just learning all of the ins and
>> outs of how to sell artwork and take commissions. I have been asked by a
>> club (150 members or so) to illustrate some mushrooms for their T-shirts,
>> bags, mugs, and probably for their website. The illustration would
>> likely take me about 14 hours to make. They would like to have rights to
>> the image (I would not get a percentage of each shirt sale). What is a
>> reasonable amount to ask for? While I would be selling my time, materials,
>> and the rights to my illustration, I also know that they are a non-profit
>> club.
>> Thanks for your help!
>> - Julie Himes
>> ____________________________
>> Julie Himes Science Illustration
>> Monterey, CA
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