Hi all.
Not to horn in on Linda's problem, but I am working on a LOT (100? I'm afraid to count) of small color illustrations that are going to be placed with text on a large, double-sided, fold-up map-type deal.
I've never used InDesign before, and thought it might be the way to go, but after reading all of this, I'm wondering if Illustrator will be better. I've used Illustrator a lot for line art, but not for full color.
If the publisher doesn't care which format it's in, what are reasons I might choose one or the other?

Thanks!
marni

Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 07:20:59 -0800
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Alright this is ehat I want you to do. In photoshop take the layer that has the image...if it is called background and it is locked duplicate the background layer. This will become Layer 1. Use the color selection tool on layer 1 and select the background color with a range of 200. This will select the white color. Hit delete. Conert they layer to grsyscale. Hide the background layer save as PSD. With only layer 1 visible you shoukd now have only the grsycale image. Make sure yiu have a pixel rezolution of 600 dpi. Export or save as EPS with 8 bit TIF bitmap for placement. Test fike by bringing into INDD... see how that works. Best. Deb

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Hi Deb:
Yes, that is correct, it's a banner-like entry sign. Dark background, the sketches are watermarked (80% appx) behind large lettering that is very light in color.

you may drop an image file TIF grayscale and then have it take on a specfic pantone or ink color within INDesign.

Yes, grayscale works beautifully. but she can't colorize it and maintain transparent background. I've not gotten it to do that in my experiments, either. 
Maybe I'll try with TIFF again. I think I've given her PSD files. 

I have scanned sketchbook images. These are the draft images. The final images have yet to be drawn, but I have to provide an image document where yet ANOTHER graphic designer in charge of pre-press can just substitute my draft FPO file for the high res file. That scares me a LOT. 
Especially I am unfamiliar with how INDD incorporates these documents. 

If I can just give her a grayscale document, and all the colorizing is done in the INDD document, then I think the substitution could go smoothly. I do this all the time in AI and PSD. But it's just not the same in INDD. or else I'm just not knowledgeable in-depth in INDD>.

I've not done a duotone. 

I was going to ask if it was spot color or full color, but my guess is full color CMYK. 

Yes, I'm trying to work within  her system she's already developed, in order to keep the colors consistent. I don't care what it looks like on screen, she is designating either PMS colors or color profiles for CMYK colors. So it should at least be consistent when printed. 

Many thanks!
Linda
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On Dec 6, 2013, at 7:43 AM, Deb Haines wrote:

Linda is the artwork you provided a scan of a graphite sket ch? From what you describe the designer has a colored background and they want the sketch instead of a grayscale to strip out to another ink color, is that correct?

There are two possibilities: if I remember correctly you may drop an image file TIF grayscale and then have it take on a specfic pantone or ink color within INDesign. If you have already created this in AI or PSD and the sketch is on one layer and your colors another layer you may be able to create two separate files. Or if the designer can provide the specific pantone color you csn create the grayscale graphite drawing to a duotone PSD and export the PSD as a CMYK TIF. Again not seeing the actual desin, not knowing if this is a spot color or full color print process changes how you woukd troubleshoot. Also if monitors, scanners and printers are not color calibrated and color profiles are not saved with your file there will be a tendecy in color shifts within printing.

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Well, that's the problem, It's NOT my call. I know how to do this in PSD and AI (EASY PEASY), but INDD is not handling transparency the same.
 I"m working with someone who is finalizing panels for a huge project, and the whole project is done that way. This is one small part. 

I know what INDD is supposed to be used for, I have used it for book and brochure design. But not this issue. 
It's out of my hands, but I have to give her a file that she can go on to manipulate, and so far she can't work with my PSD files. And if that's not complicated enough, she is working with my pencil drafts, which will later next year,  will have to be replaced (by ANOTHER design firm) with my original drawing, that wont be drawn until next year. 

I'm trying to come up with a fool proof file that I can give her that she can colorize. 

Thanks! I appreciate the thoughts.
Linda
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