Pageantry is period and most of the "games" that we do are in fact pulled from period sources (reeds, rings, quintain, heads), not to mention actual jousting & mounted combat. Those fall under the "weapons" activities, I suppose.

Also - racing - totally happened and may (or may not) have involved actual weapons. ;-) 

Now - the way that we run 'challenges', no, I don't believe that would have been in practice back then. But the elements that make them up certainly were. It was about practicing the skills needed & training the horses for what they needed to do. And who is to say that they didn't combine running at a target with a lance, to be followed swiftly with cutting the head off a dummy? Seems practical to me.

In Service,


On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Alexander Caithnes <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Most of the stuff the eqestrians do that does.'t involve weapons is
modified games from
Pony Club or 4H. Why not research actual things instead of norrowing from
modern sources? To me, taking stuff from modern game sources is kust plain
lazy. If you eant to make stuff up, at least base it on something in
period. There are lots of illuminations out there to extrapolate from.

Take care,

> So, a little further investigation leads me to believe that the rules were
> written between 1558 and 1569.  Elizabeth didn't take the throne until '58
> and in '69, Thomas Howard, Duke of Norfolk (the credited writer of the
> rules) was imprisoned for treason.
> I agree that we can't use a live rabbit.  We would have to modify the
> rules to allow for a mechanized rabbit.  We could run two dogs at once
> around a course and the winner would be the dog in the lead at a certain
> point.  Or perhaps the dogs get points for being in the lead at different
> spots along the course.  The issue I foresee is the two dogs deciding that
> the rabbit is less interesting than each other.
> As for other competitions, we should talk to the equestrian people to see
> where they came up with the various competitions they do.  I'm sure we
> could do something similar to an emprise.  I'm also picturing a small
> crane for a weight lifting competition.  I'll keep looking and see what I
> can find.  But I wouldn't restrict ourselves to only those things we can
> document.  More stuff to do = more fun for all.
> Murd