As I have trouble deleting interesting email, here's a blast from the 
past.  I'd love to know if there's been new information found in the last 
12 years which changes things!  :>


in the Outlands till this summer; no clue about what happens after that

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Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 06:12:09 -0600
From: Fiskr <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To: Historical Recreation in the Kingdom of Calontir
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Subject: Re: [CALONTIR] Cars, dragons, and sunglasses, oh my!

>From the Artemesian list:


Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 21:13:18 -0600
    From: "Brian L. Rygg or Laura Barbee-Rygg" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: SMALLS -- just for the record

      Subject came up on the Rialto, and since it has come up before within
our fair Kingdom, I decided to copy my response onto the Aerie as well:

      There is a persistent myth that, in period, no child would be called a
small.  There is a persistent co-myth that, in period, any reference to
smalls would be understood to mean underwear.

      In English, at least, both are incorrect.

      In the Oxford English Dictionary -- which lists meanings not by primacy
of their current use, but in the chronological order each meaning developed
in the language -- definition 1 for the noun form of small is:

"Persons or animals of small size or stature; little ones, children.  (Now
only with  *the*.)"

The citations for that meaning date back as far as 1220.

      Definition 9.a  -- "Small clothes; breeches." -- has as its earliest
citation an 1837 Dickens quotation.

      Small-clothes, also listed as smallclothes, is defined as breeches or
knee-breeches.  The first citation, from 1796, is, I think, amusing enough
to quote:

"The immensity of their breeches, (for, in spite of the fashionable phrase,
it would certainly be a perversion of terms to call them small-clothes).

Your honours in dutie.

Brendan Pilgrim
Cognitio et Cogitatio Vitae Pennas Dant


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