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It is my recollection that the idea was actually older, but Pavel was the first official Oaf. The OAF grew out of a desire to remember Baron Sir William Coeur de Boeuf, and his Thugs, and Thugs-in-Training.

'wela, who was there, duly following Lizzie around like a lap dog   

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> On Apr 16, 2014, at 8:08 AM, Clayton Neff <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> Rhodri  wrote:
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>> A grinning mind-house	.     gave birth to me
>> Mind-house is a kenning for skull, and grinning emphasizes that idea. Probably the single most important skull in Calontir history, at least heraldically speaking, was Humpk. I believe he gave birth to the order. I will say, I could be wrong. Edward Cire of Greymoor might have been the one. This line refers to a fairly busy day, 5 November 1983 when Pavel was named the first OAF. That was also the day that Humpk stepped down and Cire took the princely throne. I would love to know for sure :)
> I seem to recall her Excellency Elisabeth talking about making Pavel the first OAF. And it seems an award more likely dreamt up by Cire and Lizzie than Hump and Mamara.
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