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Good idea, Cat.


On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Barry K. MacKay <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Excellent idea.
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> *From:* SciArt-L Discussion List-for Natural Science Illustration-
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] *On Behalf Of *Catherine Wilson
> *Sent:* May-03-14 11:28 AM
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> *Subject:* Re: [SCIART] Work for free is not confined to art
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> Hello all!
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> SO many things to say, but before I start rambling. I stumbled on a great
> GREAT idea to stop working for free/lowballing and help artists value price
> their work. A friend of mine is an ecologist and participated in a website
> where ecologists can post anonymously what jobs they took and what they
> were paid.
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> This would be an amazing tool for the next generation of guild members. We
> could have something like that on the website, a place to post type of job,
> pay and level of experience that is visible to guild members.
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> Arming younger artist with what pricing could help them realise their
> value and keep them from the work for exposure pit.
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> What do you think? I would certainly renew my membership for such a
> service.
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> On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Bruce Bartrug <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> Love those initials.  Netherlands, right?
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> On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 2:04 PM, Kathleen Garness <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
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> Right - which was why I was happy to be working with the Field Museum on
> the Common Plant Families of the Chicago Region, even as a volunteer. I had
> the time, the interest, and some small illustration expertise, and it was
> for me one of those situations where the philosopher Frederick Buechner
> says about our calling: "the place where your deep gladness and
> the world's deep hunger meet.'
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> If I hadn't initiated it, it wouldn't have happened. Turns out it was a
> pretty good use of my time because the pages are being used region-wide to
> help train the next generation of conservation leaders and advocates.
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> But I think we have to be VERY clear with people when they mention the
> 'exposure' card that the only one getting good exposure is them!
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> KMG
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> On May 2, 2014, at 12:31 PM, Barry K. MacKay wrote:
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> One possible test is whether or not the work involved would or would not
> be illustrated in the absence of the freebie, but even then, I feel the
> freebie is justified ONLY if you feel strongly (and I emphasize “strongly”)
> in the project.  I recently illustrated a book on an issue I have devoted
> years of effort to, because I wanted it to look good.   Mind you, even then
> I stipulated that I retain the originals, most of which were saleable so I
> did make a modest profit; also, that the interior illustrations be in
> colour, even though they were reproduced in black and white, because a
> colour drawing takes no longer to do, and is far more likely to sell.
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> Cat Wilson
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