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Jenny and Linda, Just checked out the pro-art palette. What a good idea. I think that is the way for me to go next semester. What about Utrecht paints? They always sold a large, and economical tube of very decent watercolor. Jane From: Jenny Keller Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 2:31 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [SCIART] Advice on minimal materials for an adult watercolor class hi all, a delayed response, here -- i was joyfully engaged on a backpacking trip over the weekend! kathleen, depending on the target cost of the finished paint sets, i go for a double primary palette (warm and cool of each primary), plus maybe one or two earth tones (burnt umber, burnt sienna) and maybe a green such as viridian (which quickly gets the point across that some raw-looking colors may actually be quite good at playing with others). there's also nothing like a cadmium orange, so i try to include that, too. once i had a lot of quinacridone gold on hand, for some reason, which my students also loved. so my answer to your question is, "it varies", but i make sure it's an array of 8-10 you-can-mix-yourself-to-anywhere-from-here colors. linda, just to clarify, the small pro-art palette i'm referring to actually has 20 wells (now that i'm home i can include a picture, linda, if you send me your direct email address) -- more than enough room to include whatever colors you wish. i find that air-dried tube paints re-wet quite readily for around 6 months, and are still reasonably cooperative for about 2 years, which i consider to be a good window of usability for the cost of the set (--especially considering that the paint can be replaced and the palette can be used indefinitely). i do use Daniel Smith tube paints, preferentially, but i also find that the Van Gogh tube paints (not dry cakes -- i don't think VG even makes them) are a good, economical choice for participants who would otherwise not be able to afford a paint set at all. that's my 4 cents -- a little more wordy when not typing on my phone, eh? ha ha! have a great time with your students, linda. they are so lucky to have you as their teacher! jenny On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Jenny Keller <[log in to unmask]> wrote: oh wait! 5 cents… i am currently experimenting with M.Graham&Co. and Sennlier for a few of the "eventually-turns-hard-as-rubber-when-dried" tube colors. the honey in the binder (hydrophilic) may make them re-wet better for a longer period of time. witnessing what happened to some my friends' paint sets in the tropics made me think of trying out these brands -- at least for burnt umber, viridian, etc.! jenny -- Jenny Keller Program Coordinator and Instructor, Science Illustration Program CSU Monterey Bay • 100 Campus Center • Seaside, CA 93955-8001 (831) 582-3480 • (831) 582-4502 fax • scienceillustration.org ________________________________________________ Need to leave or subscribe to the Sciart-L listserv? Follow the instructions at http://www.gnsi.org/resources/reviews/gnsi-sciart-l-listserv Need to leave or subscribe to the Sciart-L listserv? Follow the instructions at http://www.gnsi.org/resources/reviews/gnsi-sciart-l-listserv