I think Norse patronymics only use the given name. I may be wrong though, but I cannot think of any examples where a nickname was used. Wulfhere On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Caitlin Smith <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Interesting. Does relationship conflict happen for anybody other than the > Welsh? I assume (perhaps incorrectly?) that it only applies when using two > or more identifiers of heritage. > > On a related note, can Norse -dottirs use the parent's nickname, or only > first name? (I'm now picturing Ingeborg Beinlessdottir, although that > might fall into presumption.) > > -Ingeborg > > -Ingeborg > On Nov 7, 2014 11:52 AM, "Dorcas Whitecap" <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > >> One of the requirements for registering a name or device in the SCA is >> that it must be unique. When a submitted item is too much like something >> that is already registered, that failure of uniqueness is referred to as a >> conflict. Two of the items I registered below are referred to as "Blanket >> Permission to Conflict". >> >> >> >> There are a couple of kinds of conflict when talking about names. >> Identity conflict is when two people share a name, like Duncan. A >> simple way to clear this conflict is to add some kind of descriptor, like >> “Eardstapa” or “of Skeene”, or a surname, like “Mac Torquill”. But >> identity conflict might happen when two names aren’t exactly alike, but >> close enough to be confusing. Imagine “Duncan Mac Torquill” and “Duncan >> MacTorville” both fighting in the Toys for Tots tournament! Therefore, >> SCA rules say that to be clear of identity conflict, two names must be >> substantially different in both sound and appearance. Now, Duncan Mac >> Torquill could grant permission for somebody to register the name Duncan >> MacTorville. There’s a process for the other person to ask for a Letter >> of Permission to Conflict. He might not get it, but it’s worth asking. One >> of my Blanket Permissions below simply removes the need for somebody to >> track me down and explicitly ask me if it’s okay to register a name like >> “Dorcas Lightcap” or “Fnorcas Whitecap”. My personal feeling is that >> I’m fine with that. YMMV. >> >> >> >> Another kind of name conflict is by relationship. Relationship conflict >> is when names make two people appear to be related, by marriage or by blood. >> “Rhianwen ferch Bran ap Gruffydd” is the daughter of Bran, who is the son >> of Gruffydd. This name can be registered as long as there is nobody >> with the registered name of “Bran ap Gruffydd”, or if there is, he grants >> permission for Rhianwen to register a name that implies she is his daughter. >> My second Blanket Permission below again removes the need for somebody to >> track me down to explicitly ask me if it’s okay to register a name like >> “John DorcasWhitecapson”. Okay, that name has other problems, but >> relationship conflict isn’t one of them, since my Blanket Permission is on >> record. >> >> >> >> The third item I registered below is a Heraldic Will. If I’m not around >> to decide what to do with my name and armory, Gold Falcon gets to decide. >> I could register a Blanket Permission to conflict with my device, like I >> have done with my name, but I don’t care to. If somebody wants to >> register a device that looks like mine, after I’m dead I don’t imagine I’ll >> need it, so some future Gold Falcon can grant that permission. You can >> will your heraldry to anybody, not just another herald. >> >> >> >> Registering a Heraldic Will or a Blanket Permission to Conflict doesn’t >> cost anything. Doing so is an act of generosity and kindness toward >> future SCAdians. Somebody might come up with a really cool name or >> device, and you might not think that it conflicts with yours, or might not >> mind, but if they can’t find you to get your permission, they are out of >> luck. See your local herald about registering a Heraldic Will or >> Blanket Permission to Conflict today! >> >> >> >> Thanks for asking. >> >> >> D^ >> >> On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 12:45 AM, Caitlin Smith < >> [log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >>> Dorcas did things I haven't heard of before! >>> Tell us about them, please, Mistress Heraldry Goob. >>> >>> -Ingeborg >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 6:49 PM, Jeremy Sacksteder < >>> [log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> >>>> Greetings to All, >>>> ... snip ... >>>> * *Dorcas Whitecap. * Blanket permission to conflict by identity with >>>> name. Dorcas grants permission to conflict for any name that is at >>>> least a syllable different from her registered name. >>>> * *Dorcas Whitecap. * Blanket permission to conflict by relationship >>>> with name. Dorcas grants permission to use her registered name in part >>>> of another name, thus creating a claim of relationship. Such a permission >>>> to conflict is covered in PN3E and Appendix D of SENA. >>>> * *Dorcas Whitecap. * Heraldic will. Upon her death, Dorcas's heraldic >>>> will transfers control of her currently registered items to the office of >>>> the Gold Falcon Principal Herald of the Kingdom of Calontir. >>>> >>> .. snip ... >> -- Manage your subscription at http://listserv.unl.edu. listserv.unl.edu >> lists do not accept incoming email from Yahoo.com, AOL.com or Dropbox.com >> due to their DMARC policies. > > -- Manage your subscription at http://listserv.unl.edu. listserv.unl.edu > lists do not accept incoming email from Yahoo.com, AOL.com or Dropbox.com > due to their DMARC policies. > -- Historic Huntsville Missouri https://sites.google.com/site/historichuntsvillemissouri/ -- Manage your subscription at http://listserv.unl.edu. listserv.unl.edu lists do not accept incoming email from Yahoo.com, AOL.com or Dropbox.com due to their DMARC policies.