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I think Norse patronymics only use the given name. I may be wrong though, but I cannot think of any examples where a nickname was used.

Wulfhere 

On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Caitlin Smith <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Interesting.  Does relationship conflict happen for anybody other than the Welsh?  I assume (perhaps incorrectly?) that it only applies when using two or more identifiers of heritage.

On a related note, can Norse -dottirs use the parent's nickname, or only first name?  (I'm now picturing Ingeborg Beinlessdottir, although that might fall into presumption.)

-Ingeborg

-Ingeborg

On Nov 7, 2014 11:52 AM, "Dorcas Whitecap" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

One of the requirements for registering a name or device in the SCA is that it must be unique.  When a submitted item is too much like something that is already registered, that failure of uniqueness is referred to as a conflict.  Two of the items I registered below are referred to as "Blanket Permission to Conflict".

 

There are a couple of kinds of conflict when talking about names.  Identity conflict is when two people share a name, like Duncan.  A simple way to clear this conflict is to add some kind of descriptor, like “Eardstapa” or “of Skeene”, or a surname, like “Mac Torquill”.  But identity conflict might happen when two names aren’t exactly alike, but close enough to be confusing.  Imagine “Duncan Mac Torquill” and  “Duncan MacTorville” both fighting in the Toys for Tots tournament!  Therefore, SCA rules say that to be clear of identity conflict, two names must be substantially different in both sound and appearance.  Now, Duncan Mac Torquill could grant permission for somebody to register the name Duncan MacTorville.  There’s a process for the other person to ask for a Letter of Permission to Conflict.  He might not get it, but it’s worth asking.  One of my Blanket Permissions below simply removes the need for somebody to track me down and explicitly ask me if it’s okay to register a name like “Dorcas Lightcap” or “Fnorcas Whitecap”.  My personal feeling is that I’m fine with that.  YMMV.

 

Another kind of name conflict is by relationship.  Relationship conflict is when names make two people appear to be related, by marriage or by blood.  “Rhianwen ferch Bran ap Gruffydd” is the daughter of Bran, who is the son of Gruffydd.  This name can be registered as long as there is nobody with the registered name of “Bran ap Gruffydd”, or if there is, he grants permission for Rhianwen to register a name that implies she is his daughter.  My second Blanket Permission below again removes the need for somebody to track me down to explicitly ask me if it’s okay to register a name like “John DorcasWhitecapson”.  Okay, that name has other problems, but relationship conflict isn’t one of them, since my Blanket Permission is on record.

 

The third item I registered below is a Heraldic Will.  If I’m not around to decide what to do with my name and armory, Gold Falcon gets to decide.  I could register a Blanket Permission to conflict with my device, like I have done with my name, but I don’t care to.  If somebody wants to register a device that looks like mine, after I’m dead I don’t imagine I’ll need it, so some future Gold Falcon can grant that permission.  You can will your heraldry to anybody, not just another herald.

 

Registering a Heraldic Will or a Blanket Permission to Conflict doesn’t cost anything.  Doing so is an act of generosity and kindness toward future SCAdians.  Somebody might come up with a really cool name or device, and you might not think that it conflicts with yours, or might not mind, but if they can’t find you to get your permission, they are out of luck.  See your local herald about registering a Heraldic Will or Blanket Permission to Conflict today!

 

Thanks for asking.


D^


On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 12:45 AM, Caitlin Smith <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Dorcas did things I haven't heard of before! 
Tell us about them, please, Mistress Heraldry Goob.

-Ingeborg


On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 6:49 PM, Jeremy Sacksteder <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Greetings to All,
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* Dorcas Whitecap. Blanket permission to conflict by identity with name.
Dorcas grants permission to conflict for any name that is at least a syllable different from her registered name.
* Dorcas Whitecap. Blanket permission to conflict by relationship with name.
Dorcas grants permission to use her registered name in part of another name, thus creating a claim of relationship. Such a permission to conflict is covered in PN3E and Appendix D of SENA.
* Dorcas Whitecap. Heraldic will.
Upon her death, Dorcas's heraldic will transfers control of her currently registered items to the office of the Gold Falcon Principal Herald of the Kingdom of Calontir.
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