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On 12/4/2014 2:36 PM, Patrick Anderson wrote:
> If you use the phrase "patents of arms" to describes "letters patent",
> and in particular those granting arms, they exist.

Yes, sort of, they do.

The granting of armorial bearings did, most certainly, exist.

Letters Patent, of all sorts, existed.

A "Patent of Arms" is an SCA thing, as we both know.

> And the London Masters is the reason, disregarding any opinion I have on
> the "4th peerage" in general, that I hate the proposed title.

I can't believe it would pass Pelican, honestly.

	Tibor

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