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barrett klein
Department of Biology
University of Wisconsin - La Crosse
1725 State Street, La Crosse, WI
www.pupating.org

On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 2:35 PM, barrett klein <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> I've received very interesting and not-unexpected feedback from this
> listserve.  Thank you!
>
> I crafted this email message, including mention of GNSI, and sent it to
> the author who invited me.  Let's see how the author responds...
>
> Dear ____,
>
> I've been receiving messages full of questions from the artists I
> recommended you contact.  Colleagues of mine are concerned and I can
> appreciate these concerns, so I would like to share them with you so that I
> might properly respond.  Artists are often asked to share their work for
> "exposure," and are not reimbursed for products that make others money.
> For my sake and the sake of those coming to me for information, could you
> respond to the following?
>
> 1) Is this book for profit and who attains financial rewards from sales of
> the book?
> 2) Why is the author of the introduction not paid?
> 3) Why are contributing artists not paid?
>
> My colleagues share a concern with the Guild for Natural Science
> Illustrators and others that artists should receive payment for their
> contributions, taking the form of a one-time payment, royalties from sales,
> and/or copies of the book.
>
> I would like to see this book become the best it can be, but I also do not
> wish to undermine my colleague's profession and integrity in the process.
> Please let me know your thoughts on the matter and whether or not an
> arrangement that respects artists' contributions can be instituted here.
> Thank you for your consideration.
>
> Sincerely,
> barrett
>
>
> barrett klein
> Department of Biology
> University of Wisconsin - La Crosse
> 1725 State Street, La Crosse, WI
> www.pupating.org
>
> On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 5:15 PM, Kathleen Garness <[log in to unmask]
> > wrote:
>
>> There was a long-ish thread on this recently about the many pros and cons
>> of donating work. Check the archives if you can!
>>
>> The 'exposure' angle is dicey at best. My rule for donating artwork is
>> something like this: 1) do I love the organization and their mission enough
>> that I would donate the equivalent in $$ to them? 2) Is this new artwork to
>> be commissioned (see previous question) or work I've already completed (may
>> be more of a consideration) that they want to use? 3) am I not taking
>> legitimate income away from another artist by donating my work? If the
>> answer to all three is yes, then I may do that.
>>
>> The artists really should be paid if the author and publisher are. There
>> are some publications where artists DO advertise their work, and they pay
>> money for such privilege. What difference would this publication be to
>> something like that? Artists are putting wonderful work up on the internet
>> and unscrupulous folks are stealing and reselling it as their own. Our
>> profession needs dignity and protection.
>>
>> There are fine considerations to all of this - please keep us posted!
>>
>> Kathy G
>>
>> On Jul 18, 2015, at 4:46 PM, barrett klein wrote:
>>
>> Thank you, Kathy.  I can only assume the author who invited me to write
>> the introduction of the book is being paid and the publishers will receive
>> money.
>>
>> Yes, there are certainly opportunities for which I would donate my work
>> (in print) pro bono in order for it to reach wider audiences.  I will write
>> the author about copyright protection.  Still not sure about how to broach
>> the topic of payment for the artists.  I think the author sees this as an
>> opportunity for the artists to advertise themselves because they include
>> information about them, including links to websites, etc.
>>
>>
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