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On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 8:54 PM, barrett klein <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Thank you, Bruce.
> Honestly, I just want to see a book on the proposed topic to be inspiring
> and beautiful.  If they had charged artists a dime, I would have laughed
> and turned the other direction.
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> barrett klein
> Department of Biology
> University of Wisconsin - La Crosse
> 1725 State Street, La Crosse, WI
> www.pupating.org
>
> On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 7:43 PM, Bruce Bartrug <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> This sounds exactly like a lot of "art books" that are supposedly
>> distributed to galleries.  Some (many?) may be legitimate, but more than a
>> few are (or were) quite the rip-off.  Artists actually paid the publisher
>> -- over $200 in many cases -- to have their work in these books, although
>> the payment did allow the participating artists one copy of the resulting
>> publication.  Figure it out......$200 from 100 artists (at 2 pages per
>> artist) is 20kilobucks.  It doesn't cost that much to print 100 copies and
>> give them away to galleries.
>>
>> There's a art promotion site here in Maine that works on the same plan.
>> One pays $250 and is allowed so many pieces of art work on the site.
>> Supposedly, "accepted" artists (anyone with $250?) gets "promoted" by the
>> owners/operators.  I'm not certain what type promotion that entails other
>> than having one's work on their website, as I've never joined.  Also, one
>> has to pay every year to be included.
>>
>> Yes, it's true that publishers and bookstores are going out of business
>> (anyone here buy from Amazon? for shame), but this type publication has
>> been around for quite a while.
>>
>> On the other side of the coin, I'm certain everyone will recognize the
>> name Art Wolfe.  Art is a wildlife photographer that has published quite a
>> string of superb photography books.  Thing is, Wolfe only breaks even on
>> the books.  He produces them to keep his name at the top of the list at the
>> photo stock agencies, which is where he makes his money.
>>
>> So compromise is always an issue in self-promotion.  Your friend may have
>> produced an excellent piece of work that may help some artists.  I'm not
>> certain how galleries select the artists they chose to promote, but I
>> suspect most galleries turn away dozens of artists who are clamoring to
>> have their work shown.  I could be wrong, but I can't imagine that
>> galleries today have to go looking for high quality artists.  (As an aside,
>> having been to many art galleries it sometimes seems to me they are NOT
>> looking for high quality artists but rather artists that produce something
>> the gallery thinks will sell in that community.  High quality artists
>> become illustrators so they can stick to high quality art work.)
>>
>> If you are comfortable with this arrangement, go with it.  I suspect,
>> however, that most of us here are looking for other ways to promote
>> themselves than work for free "exposure."  We've all had that experience in
>> one guise or another, and most who have realize it doesn't get them much.
>>
>> Best,
>> Bruce
>>
>>
>>
>

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