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That's about what I thought and what I've done as well.

Liz

On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Linda Feltner <[log in to unmask]>
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> In many instances, you are right, one is looking through many images to
> learn. Depending on the rarity of the species, or the pose/behavior, it
> might be more obviously derivative.
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> I've asked insect photographers for permission when I have no other choice
> of reference. I either liked the pose, or it's hard to make up without
> specific information, such as insects in flight. I tell them that I am
> re-drawing the pose, and would like to use their photo as reference. Most
> often they say fine, appreciate me asking, and say no charge, but would
> like to see the finished product.
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> There are professional photographers that I always offer a fee, because I
> feel I should support their hard work. I could never, ever sit in blind for
> 5 hours in the hot sun, waiting for the perfect photo...
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> Bethann's inquiry mentioned "specific subjects" so it may be that it is
> only too obvious where the references originate.
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> Cheers,
> Linda
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> On Aug 28, 2015, at 8:47 AM, Liz Lockett wrote:
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> This is naive but if you creating a truly unique piece and you are using
> images for information only, not design or  composition why would you buy
> them? Unless you felt like you wanted personal copies?
> On Aug 28, 2015 9:21 AM, "Britt Griswold" <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
>> A GNSI member has posed an interesting question in the Business section
>> of the GNSI Forums. I would be curious to know what sort of experience
>> other list members have had with procuring permission to use images as
>> reference:
>>
>> ______
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>> I'm looking for references online for some pretty specific subjects, and
>> the only images I can find are clearly images owned/under copyrights. A
>> couple were produced by photojournalists, from what I can tell. Like us,
>> they probably (rightly) anticipate being compensated for use of their
>> images. :)
>>
>> So, my questions are:
>>
>> Are there norms for purchasing reference images (not from stock
>> agencies)"?
>> Has anyone had any experience purchasing rights to a reference image?
>> If so, how have you handled approaching the photographer? Is there a
>> standard licensing fee I could propose?
>> Anything I'm forgetting to ask?
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
>> Bethann
>>
>> _____
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