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The question was not about diagnostics, that would be a different 
matter, this was about discussing stings, allergies and killer insects 
with hysterical-minded members of the public.  Totally different matter.

Mike

On 4/24/2016 4:33 PM, Christopher Carlton wrote:
>
> Oddly, in contrast to Mike I's opinions about the matter, the 
> extension professionals here at LSU are directed to forward diagnostic 
> requests to the Curator or to me, and I know it works that way 
> elsewhere, though obviously not everywhere. And, yes, we do deal with 
> worried members of the public who get stung or bitten by animals with 
> jointed appendages, or think they have. The folks Mike F. is talking 
> about don't take kindly to being referred to someone else for 
> administrative reasons. This feeds their darkest suspicions about lazy 
> college professors and their minions. I can see his point in 
> attempting to consolidate useful information into one place for fast 
> and easy knowledge transfer, which people do take kindly to.
>
>
> Purely curatorial positions at land grant institutions are uncommon. 
> More often they include diagnostic responsibilities. Certainly, 
> diagnostics and dealing with the public is a substantial part of my 
> job that that of our Curator. We are not extension, but we are 
> professionals.
>
>
> Chris Carlton, Ph. D.
>
> Benjamin Holton Professor of Agriculture
>
> Director, Louisiana State Arthropod Museum
>
> President, Coleopterists Society
>
> Department of Entomology, LSB-404
>
> 110 Union Sq., Baton Rouge, LA 70803-1710
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> www.lsuinsects.org<http://www.lsuinsects.org/>
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> <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Michael A. Ivie <[log in to unmask]>
> *Sent:* Sunday, April 24, 2016 3:27 PM
> *To:* [log in to unmask]
> *Subject:* Re: Scary Wasps and Stings
> Mike,
>
> I strongly agree with Lu on this -- you are at a land grant university 
> with an extension program employing professionals to deal with the 
> public.  Let the professionals deal with this.  These wackos are not 
> going to enjoy what they will see as your condescension, cute jabs, 
> and dismissive remarks, as much as we in the in-group do.  In their 
> minds they are fully engaged as dedicated parents defending their 
> offspring from death and disfigurement, and you are being 
> inappropriate.  They will be neither amused nor educated. Plus, your 
> treatment of allergic response could be a problem, past lack of 
> allergic response is not a predictor of future reactions.  All you 
> need is one problem to bring a crazy lawyer down on your head.  Since 
> there are professionals already at Clemson paid to do this stuff, not 
> passing inquiries to them means something (pick any unfinished 
> curatorial task, there are always unfinished curatorial tasks) that 
> you really need to get done is being neglected while extension work is 
> being duplicated unnecessarily.
>
> Mike
>
> On 4/24/2016 4:08 AM, Musetti, Luciana wrote:
>> I refer every such request to OSU Extension Entomology.
>>
>> Luciana Musetti, PhD | Curator
>> [log in to unmask] | go.osu.edu/osu-insects 
>> <http://go.osu.edu/osu-insects>
>> The Ohio State University | Triplehorn Insect Collection | 1315 
>> Kinnear Road, Columbus, OH 43212-1157 | Office 614-292-2730 | Fax 
>> 614-292-7774
>>
>> On Apr 23, 2016, at 7:03 PM, Mike Ferro <[log in to unmask]> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I just got a frantic email from distraught parents begging for an 
>> identification of a monster they just discovered in their lawn that 
>> is certain to be the death of their precious doe-eyed child. They 
>> were desperate to know: What is it and how do we murder it?
>>
>> We all get these emails, but do you guys have a standard (prewritten, 
>> copy and paste) response concerning stinging insects, or do you 
>> provide a custom answer every time?
>>
>> I'm putting together a rough draft of a standard statement about 
>> stinging insects that I would include with (or within) stinging 
>> insect ID requests. I've included it below. Any thoughts/ideas?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> **
>>
>> *----*
>>
>> **
>>
>> *Scared of getting stung by a bee or wasp? *
>>
>> Visit the links below for information and advice. The following is 
>> not meant to be taken as medical advice.
>>
>> *Background Information: *
>>
>> Only female insects can sting. Stinging is expensive and dangerous 
>> for the insect (they only have so much venom, and don't want to get 
>> close to you), she doesn't "want" to sting you. Insects only sting 
>> when they feel threatened. If you get stung you may have accidentally 
>> gotten too close to a nest or accidentally brushed against her.
>>
>> *Are you "Allergic"?*
>>
>> A lot of people say they are "Allergic" to bee and wasp stings. What 
>> kind of reaction do you have?
>>
>> *Systemic, Allergic, Life Threatening*: About 2 out of 1000 people 
>> are allergic (hypersensitive) to bee/wasp/scorpion stings 
>> (http://www.ars.usda.gov/Research/docs.htm?docid=11067&page=1 , 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaphylaxis). For these people a bee 
>> sting can be life threatening. A severe reaction includes vomiting, 
>> shortness of breath/inability to breath, stomach cramps, 
>> unconsciousness, etc. Allergic people may have a major reaction to 
>> pretty much ANY sting, whether from a giant scary wasp, a boring 
>> little ant, or a helpful honey bee.
>>
>> *Local Reactions:* For most of us the sting hurts, we experience 
>> local swelling (e.g., a few inches around the sting, half an arm, 
>> etc.), redness, etc. Generally the swelling subsides in a few minutes 
>> to hours and the pain goes away. Amazingly, the average person (adult 
>> or child) could tolerate more than 100 bee stings and not die (but it 
>> wouldn't be fun, either!).
>>
>> Fun fact: There is an entomologist who created a sting pain index by 
>> letting things sting him and then rating the pain 
>> (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schmidt_sting_pain_index). He just 
>> wrote a book, The Sting of the Wild (http://amzn.com/1421419289).
>>
>> In my experience getting stung is 1) a rare event, 2) not fun, 3) but 
>> not the end of the world, 4) helps place minor aches and pains in 
>> perspective, and 5) results in an important increase in awareness of 
>> one's surroundings.
>>
>> *Good sites to get more information about insect stings: *
>>
>> https://www.ccohs.ca/oshanswers/biol_hazards/bees_wasps.html
>>
>> http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/topics/insects/
>>
>> http://www.ars.usda.gov/Research/docs.htm?docid=11067
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bee_sting
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Michael L. Ferro
>> Collection Manager, Clemson University Arthropod Collection (CUAC)
>> Dept. of Agricultural and Environmental Sciences
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