I'm curious to know if a person's experience with contact lenses could accurately simulate the various implantable-lens options. I'm one of those people who adjusted very quickly to "mono vision" lenses -- having one eye corrected for close-up vision and the other for far. However, I was never able to adjust to "multifocal" lenses that split the light -- everything kept veering in and out of focus, and this aspect never cleared up for me. So I wonder, does anyone out there know (or has anyone asked a doctor) if a trial run with contact lenses would provide a patient with a sort of sneak preview of what the different surgery choices would be like for them?

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Thanks for the great discussion about cataract surgery. I have developing cataracts, and although my doctor says mine aren't quite ready for surgery yet, I'd been concerned about what kind of lenses to get. After reading the discussion, I agree that near vision is most important to me. I don't mind wearing glasses for driving and far vision at all. One question: are there specific brands I should look for in the lens the doctor implants?
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Date:    Thu, 11 Aug 2016 05:18:07 +0000
From:    "James A. Perkins" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Discussion: Cataract surgery for artists

Hi Linny,

I've done quite a bit of research on this topic for myself and for others. I developed cataracts in both eyes in my late 40s and had both eyes done. My brother also had both eyes done in his 40s (bad eyes seem to run in my family since both of us also developed retinal detachments in our mid-50s). And I spent MANY hours discussing this topic on the phone with our former listserv pal, the late Liz Day, before she had both of her eyes done. Liz was particularly concerned about the effects of certain lenses on contrast sensitivity and color perception.

You basically have five options for intraocular lens replacement:

1. Monofocal. This is the simplest type of lens that focuses at only one distance. You can choose to have the lens focus at any focal length you want - near vision, distance vision, or even intermediate distance.

2. Toric lenses. This is a type of monofocal lens that also corrects for astigmatism. If you have an astigmatism, these work really well, but they have to be positioned very precisely within the eye. Make sure your surgeon is certified to implant these and has lots of experience with them.

3. "Monovision". I think this is a poor term because it sounds so much like monofocal. This is what others have described where you put a distance lens in one eye and a close up lens in the other. As others have said, this can be difficult to adjust to and may not result in good vision at ANY distance. I'm not sure why some doctors push this option since I've never heard anything good about it.

4. Multifocal lenses. This sounds like what you were talking about. These lenses literally split the light coming into your eye into multiple beams with different focal lengths. I'm aware of two such lenses using slightly different technology. The AcrySof Restor depends on differing lighting conditions to change the focal length. For example, in bright light, the pupil constricts and the light is directed through the center of the lens onto the fovea for better close-up vision. In low light, the pupil dilates, allowing more light to hit the edges of the lens, which focuses it for distance vision (this is great for driving at night but what if you happen to be driving in bright light?). The other option, the Tecnis Multifocal, uses somewhat different technology that supposedly doesn't depend on differences in lighting conditions. Multifocal lenses are very popular because they free people from having to wear glasses, but I don't think either of these is a good option for an artist. Because the beam of light is literally split into different focal lengths, less light hits the retina at any given spot. According to the research I read, this results in reduced visual acuity and reduced contrast sensitivity (i.e, reduced ability to tell the difference between subtle shades of gray or colors).

5. Accommodative lenses. When we are young, the lens in our eye is small and flexible. There are ciliary muscles in the eye that can stretch and relax the lens to change the focal length, allowing us to easily change focus from near to far. This process is called accommodation. The Crystalens and Trulign Toric (both from Bausch & Lomb) flex with changes in the ciliary muscle, similar to the eye's natural focusing mechanism (these two lenses are identical, but the Trulign Toric also corrects astigmatism). There's just one problem. According to my doctor, by the time most people need cataract surgery, they have already lost much of the ability to accommodate. This is because the lens continues to get thicker (and more stiff) as we age, and eventually the ciliary muscles just stop working. This is why so many people develop presbyopia later in life and need glasses for both near and far vision. Even in my 40s my doctor didn't recommend this option for me. I also read some research that, similar to multifocal lenses, accommodative lenses give poorer contrast sensitivity than plain old monofocal lenses. Again, not a great thing for an artist.

After doing lots of research and discussing this at length with two eye doctors, I decided to go with monofocal lenses with the same focal length in both eyes. I did have an astigmatism in my right eye, so I had a toric lens put in that eye. It completely fixed the astigmatism.

When choosing a monofocal lens, most people choose either distance (for driving) or close-up vision (for reading). Since I do all of my artwork on the computer, I told my doctor to give me lenses with a focal length of about 30 inches - the distance from my face to the computer screen. I wanted to be able to work all day without glasses, even if it meant wearing glasses for distance and reading. As it turns out, this was a pretty good compromise because my close-up vision is good enough to read anything except the tiny instructions on medicine bottles and my distance vision is good enough to drive without glasses.

Jim



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Medical Illustration
Rochester Institute of Technology
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On Aug 10, 2016, at 10:26 PM, Linda Heagy wrote:

Hi Linda,

I will have both eyes done, but not at the same time. ... I thought they could put in a lens that had both far away AND up-close vision in each eye?

Good point, Linda. I may be confused about the procedure and lenses. I was thinking that there was one lens that had the ability of both focal powers of far away and up close. I was not thinking of having one focal for distance in one eye and one for close-up in the other eye. No, that does not sound like a promising solution to me at all !

My last year visit with doctor alluded to coming new advances in lenses and cataract surgery. Just how soon, I do not know and what those advances are. So I was hoping I could hold out till those new advances were available.... If they are even beneficial to me.

Have you had cataract surgery and were you satisfied with the results?

Best,
Linny

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Date:    Thu, 11 Aug 2016 05:33:53 +0000
From:    "James A. Perkins" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Discussion: Cataract surgery for artists

Linny,

I just remembered that you also asked about the added cost of the different kind of lenses. I forgot to address that in my previous post.

Most insurance covers the cost of a monofocal lens since it's the simplest and cheapest option. Sounds like that's the case with your Medicare and Supplemental insurance. So you would be responsible to pay the surcharge for the fancier lenses.

As I recall, a toric lens (for astigmatism) was a few hundred dollars extra.

A multifocal lenses was about $500 extra (per eye).

The accommodative lens was the most expensive - about $1000 per eye beyond what the insurance would pay.

This was over five years ago, so the surcharge would probably be even greater now. But I don't recommend either the multifocal or accommodative lenses anyway, so the price is not an issue.

There would be no surcharge is you went with "monovision", i.e., one eye for close-up and one eye for distance, because that's simply implanting monofocal lenses with different focal lengths in the two different eyes. But I don't recommend this option either.

Jim


James A. Perkins, MFA, CMI, FAMI
Board Certified Medical Illustrator
Fellow, Association of Medical Illustrators

Professor and Graduate Director
Medical Illustration
Rochester Institute of Technology
CBET 75-2129
153 Lomb Memorial Drive
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On Aug 10, 2016, at 10:26 PM, Linda Heagy wrote:


On Aug 10, 2016, at 4:53 PM, Linda Heagy <[log in to unmask]<mailto:a[log in to unmask]>> wrote:

Re: [SCIART]  Discussion: Cataract surgery for artists
Hi everyone. I have been a member for some years now but rarely take part in the discussions although I have enjoyed and benefited from your great comments.

To fill you in on my background, I am 70 years old. Been a professional artist my whole life. I started out as a Fashion Illustrator, Graphic Designer, Art Director and Creative Director. Helped a friend establish Houragency Inc. (an ad agency in Ithaca, N.Y, back in the ‘70’s),  then moved to Florida where I had my own Creative Studio in Coral Gables, FL.

Moved to Texas for a position as Art Director at Neiman Marcus in Dallas. Then left Advertising profession to pursue a Horticultural degree and eventually became a scientific botanical illustrator and designer of Floras.

Now, to my main reason for contacting my fellow members.
I have always had keen vision up-close but used glasses to see far away. However, now I use reading glasses on my up-close work and for reading fine print.

At 70 I (like many others my age) have cataracts developing. Specifically in my right eye. My Doctor is telling me I need the surgery to remove cataract and replace with a lenses and is asking me would I prefer one to see far away or one to see close.  As artists, you know my answer would be BOTH!

As artists, would not the logical answer be BOTH lenses: One for far away and one for up close. My doctor says they can put in both but Medicare and my supplemental insurance will not pay or the 2nd lens.


Question to you out there who have had the surgery and the same natural close up vision:

How much was the cost of the second lens?

Did the surgery successfully work for both up close and far away vision?

Was there an adjustment time?

Any other comments to share with me that might be helpful re: this discussion?

Linny Heagy
DBA: Linny/Designer, Illustrator
Arlington, TX

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Date:    Thu, 11 Aug 2016 06:41:31 +0000
From:    Tiffany Miller Russell <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: FW: [SCIART] Surge protectors

From my husband, the IT guy:

~Tiffany


On 8/10/16 3:04 PM, "Steve Russell" <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]com>> wrote:

Linda,
First, the battery backup outlets are also surge protection. You'd plug your computer into the battery backup and the monitor into the surge protection.

Many UPSs include communication cables to attach to your computer to inform your computer the status of the battery. There is either software provided or with the operating system to set up situations where your computer can either shut down or hibernate.

Most desktops will do just fine with an APC 650 VA UPS. They cost around $70.00. It will give you enough run time for your system to either shutdown or hibernate.

Hope this helps,
Steve Russell

From: Tiffany Miller Russell [mailto:MissRaptor@deadraccoon.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 2:42 PM
To: Steve Russell <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]com>>
Subject: Fwd: [SCIART] Surge protectors



Sent from my iPhone

Begin forwarded message:
From: Linda Feltner <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
Date: August 10, 2016 at 2:21:47 PM MDT
To: <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
Subject: [SCIART] Surge protectors
Reply-To: SciArt-L Discussion List-for Natural Science Illustration- <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
Ah, the Power!!!!! Yeah, until lightning strikes!

I've been a bit mind-blown trying to research battery backup and surge protection systems.
TMI....to say the least.

Amelia said she uses an APC Smart-UPS 750VA Tower UPS.

I am looking at ones around $100, however.

What I am finding in the descriptions, is that some say the battery preserves the backup ability for 3-5 minutes until you can properly shut down your computer (that is if you're there in the office, eh?). Some say they have 4 outlets for "battery" and 4 outlets for "surge", Why isn't there both?

Does anyone have any advice?

Best,
Linda
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Date:    Thu, 11 Aug 2016 06:01:56 -0700
From:    Linda Feltner <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: FW: [SCIART] Surge protectors

Thank you Tiffany and Steve...

I have been researching and looking at models and options.

A question that remains unanswered:  "gives you enough run time for your system to either shut down or hibernate". I've read that while shopping. That is if it's turned on, and you are there to either shut down or hibernate. I've been known to run to the post office and leave it on, or be drawn out of the studio for a couple of hours. I think I read on some reviews that the software allows for some choices, so it will shut down gently or hibernate ON IT'S OWN. Is that what they mean?

That said, during monsoon, I do not walk away from the studio and leave the computer on. I unplug from the wall. If I hear thunder, I have to unplug.

I called Newegg, I've purchased from them before. Asking if some of their models (nice sale on some right now) if the software worked on a Mac OS. He said I'd have to call the manufacturer.  Many of these units say the software will work on a PC, but that has many meanings. I would hate to get a unit in here only to learn the software wasn't compatible with my software, and not show all the bells and whistles it provides on other machines -- which might be the ability to tell it to either shut down or hibernate.

Thank you,
Linda
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On Aug 10, 2016, at 11:41 PM, Tiffany Miller Russell wrote:

> From my husband, the IT guy:
>
> ~Tiffany
>
>
> On 8/10/16 3:04 PM, "Steve Russell" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> Linda,
> First, the battery backup outlets are also surge protection. You’d plug your computer into the battery backup and the monitor into the surge protection.
>
> Many UPSs include communication cables to attach to your computer to inform your computer the status of the battery. There is either software provided or with the operating system to set up situations where your computer can either shut down or hibernate.
>
> Most desktops will do just fine with an APC 650 VA UPS. They cost around $70.00. It will give you enough run time for your system to either shutdown or hibernate.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Steve Russell
>
> From: Tiffany Miller Russell [mailto:MissRaptor@deadraccoon.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 2:42 PM
> To: Steve Russell <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Fwd: [SCIART] Surge protectors
>
>


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Date:    Thu, 11 Aug 2016 09:05:34 -0400
From:    Bruce Bartrug <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Discussion: Cataract surgery for artists

Very interesting, Chris and Jim, and thank you both.

Reading through the articles about multifocal lens replacements reminds me
of my experience with "progressive" (multifocal) lenses for standard
eyeglasses.  In my day job as a pharmacist I needed the multifocal lenses
and wore them constantly, including while driving.  When I began to have
problems seeing clearly in my right eye and the cataract was noticed, I
needed to change the right lens prescription.  Since I would probably soon
need to change the right lens again (after cataract surgery), I opted to
chang the right lens in a standard pair of bifocal glasses that I wear when
using a camera or binoculars.  Since they are now the glasses I use for
driving, I've discovered these are better for that activity than
progressives....mainly because the peripheral vision is as clear as that
directly in front of me....with progressive lenses one must look directly
at a person/book/whatever as the progressive part of the lens is hourglass
shaped.  As I became accustomed to using the bifocals I've noticed the
accommodation difficulties at various distances is not the problem I had
expected, and only becomes noticeable at some middle distances from about 3
feet up to about reading distance.

This, and the warnings about contrast, etc., in the articles cited by
Chris, confirms my notion that single focal length lens replacements of
some near distance will most likely be my choice.  Since my forties I've
always had three pairs of glasses.....a progressive pair for work and
driving, a single focal length pair for reading, and another single focal
length pair for computer work.  This occasionally led to extensive searches
through the house :), but that was a small issue compared to having the
ability to move my eyes when reading or using a computer, instead of
constantly turning my neck when using progressive lenses (to keep the
hourglass aimed at what I was doing/reading.)

This coincides with photographic lenses......single focal length (or prime)
lenses have always had the advantage when edge to edge sharpness and high
contrast were needed.  Zooms (multifocal lenses) could come close, but were
mainly for convenience.  This has changed in recent years, so multifocal,
or other, lens replacements shouldn't automatically be rejected.  I
probably will choose single focal distance replacements, but what I'm
really going to miss is the ability to see the finest detail simply be
removing my glasses and using my near-sighted eyes which focus at about 5
inches.

I'll let you know what I learn, Linny and Brie.

Interesting discussion, and thanks to everyone,
bab



On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 1:33 AM, James A. Perkins <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Linny,
>
> I just remembered that you also asked about the added cost of the
> different kind of lenses. I forgot to address that in my previous post.
>
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Date:    Thu, 11 Aug 2016 10:29:15 -0400
From:    OC Carlisle <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Discussion: Cataract surgery for artists

Thank you all for this enlightening discussion. I will probably encounter this issue in the future. Now I use trifocal glasses which has served me well. Thanks again!

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> On Aug 11, 2016, at 9:05 AM, Bruce Bartrug <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> Very interesting, Chris and Jim, and thank you both.
>
> Reading through the articles about multifocal lens replacements reminds me of my experience with "progressive" (multifocal) lenses for standard eyeglasses.  In my day job as a pharmacist I needed the multifocal lenses and wore them constantly, including while driving.  When I began to have problems seeing clearly in my right eye and the cataract was noticed, I needed to change the right lens prescription.  Since I would probably soon need to change the right lens again (after cataract surgery), I opted to chang the right lens in a standard pair of bifocal glasses that I wear when using a camera or binoculars.  Since they are now the glasses I use for driving, I've discovered these are better for that activity than progressives....mainly because the peripheral vision is as clear as that directly in front of me....with progressive lenses one must look directly at a person/book/whatever as the progressive part of the lens is hourglass shaped.  As I became accustomed to using the bifocals I've noticed the accommodation difficulties at various distances is not the problem I had expected, and only becomes noticeable at some middle distances from about 3 feet up to about reading distance.
>
> This, and the warnings about contrast, etc., in the articles cited by Chris, confirms my notion that single focal length lens replacements of some near distance will most likely be my choice.  Since my forties I've always had three pairs of glasses.....a progressive pair for work and driving, a single focal length pair for reading, and another single focal length pair for computer work.  This occasionally led to extensive searches through the house :), but that was a small issue compared to having the ability to move my eyes when reading or using a computer, instead of constantly turning my neck when using progressive lenses (to keep the hourglass aimed at what I was doing/reading.)
>
> This coincides with photographic lenses......single focal length (or prime) lenses have always had the advantage when edge to edge sharpness and high contrast were needed.  Zooms (multifocal lenses) could come close, but were mainly for convenience.  This has changed in recent years, so multifocal, or other, lens replacements shouldn't automatically be rejected.  I probably will choose single focal distance replacements, but what I'm really going to miss is the ability to see the finest detail simply be removing my glasses and using my near-sighted eyes which focus at about 5 inches.
>
> I'll let you know what I learn, Linny and Brie.
>
> Interesting discussion, and thanks to everyone,
> bab
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 1:33 AM, James A. Perkins <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
> Linny,
>
> I just remembered that you also asked about the added cost of the different kind of lenses. I forgot to address that in my previous post.
>
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Date:    Thu, 11 Aug 2016 10:37:46 -0400
From:    Diana Marques <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Job opportunity: National Museum of Wildlife Art


A job opportunity that may be of interest, instructions for applying included:


Assistant Curator of Youth and Adult Education  Jackson, WY
National Museum of Wildlife Art

Job Description:
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The Assistant Curator of Youth and Adult Education works with the Curator of Education and Exhibits, and the Assistant Curator of Education and Exhibits, to shape and promote the National Museum of Wildlife Art’s mission as an educational resource.
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Date:    Thu, 11 Aug 2016 15:44:05 -0500
From:    Karen Ackoff <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Discussion: Cataract surgery for artists

Yes, I second the motion.

I’m not looking at cataract surgery yet. But I’m having difficulty since my optometrist of about 15 years retired. The first place I went told me I had a thinning macular layer in my eyes, which could lead to losing my sight. I was dubious, as they followed this with trying to sell me expensive vitamins. The next doctor I went to said there was no problem with my macular layer, but that I had early stage cataracts. I had glasses made there, and if I wear them, I quickly become nauseous. They insist the scrip is correct and I will get used to them, and they will not remake them. I tried a mail-order place just on a whim. But those glasses gave me double-vision, and I returned them (for a full refund, thankfully).

Went to yet a 3rd place. They actually showed me all the test results and imagery and I do not have a thinning macular layer, no do I have cataracts. The glasses that make me ill are made to the wrong scrip. I ordered new lenses for some old frames, and with any luck I will actually be able to see out of them.

Bruce, your vision sounds close to mine (my near vision focuses at about 3 inches). Do you have any problems finding a place to make your glasses? I’ve had this problem before when my optician retired. I get single vision distance lenses (can’t tolerate bifocals or progressive lenses - too much distortion), and I usually work with my nose to the drawing board sans glasses (most anyone can attest to this). If I need my mid-vision, I simply layer a pair of cheap reading glasses over my distance glasses, and this works well enough for computer work.

K





> On Aug 11, 2016, at 9:29 AM, OC Carlisle <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> Thank you all for this enlightening discussion. I will probably encounter this issue in the future. Now I use trifocal glasses which has served me well. Thanks again!
>
> OC Carlisle
> Scientific Illustration, Photographic Fine Art
> Guild of Natural Science Illustrators
> [log in to unmask]et <mailto:carlisleillustrate@bellsouth.net>
> carlisleillustration.squarespace.com <http://carlisleillustration.squarespace.com/>
> “Take Flight And Soar With Your Dreams”
>
>
>
>> On Aug 11, 2016, at 9:05 AM, Bruce Bartrug <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>>
>> Very interesting, Chris and Jim, and thank you both.
>>
>> Reading through the articles about multifocal lens replacements reminds me of my experience with "progressive" (multifocal) lenses for standard eyeglasses.  In my day job as a pharmacist I needed the multifocal lenses and wore them constantly, including while driving.  When I began to have problems seeing clearly in my right eye and the cataract was noticed, I needed to change the right lens prescription.  Since I would probably soon need to change the right lens again (after cataract surgery), I opted to chang the right lens in a standard pair of bifocal glasses that I wear when using a camera or binoculars.  Since they are now the glasses I use for driving, I've discovered these are better for that activity than progressives....mainly because the peripheral vision is as clear as that directly in front of me....with progressive lenses one must look directly at a person/book/whatever as the progressive part of the lens is hourglass shaped.  As I became accustomed to using the bifocals I've noticed the accommodation difficulties at various distances is not the problem I had expected, and only becomes noticeable at some middle distances from about 3 feet up to about reading distance.
>>
>> This, and the warnings about contrast, etc., in the articles cited by Chris, confirms my notion that single focal length lens replacements of some near distance will most likely be my choice.  Since my forties I've always had three pairs of glasses.....a progressive pair for work and driving, a single focal length pair for reading, and another single focal length pair for computer work.  This occasionally led to extensive searches through the house :), but that was a small issue compared to having the ability to move my eyes when reading or using a computer, instead of constantly turning my neck when using progressive lenses (to keep the hourglass aimed at what I was doing/reading.)
>>
>> This coincides with photographic lenses......single focal length (or prime) lenses have always had the advantage when edge to edge sharpness and high contrast were needed.  Zooms (multifocal lenses) could come close, but were mainly for convenience.  This has changed in recent years, so multifocal, or other, lens replacements shouldn't automatically be rejected.  I probably will choose single focal distance replacements, but what I'm really going to miss is the ability to see the finest detail simply be removing my glasses and using my near-sighted eyes which focus at about 5 inches.
>>
>> I'll let you know what I learn, Linny and Brie.
>>
>> Interesting discussion, and thanks to everyone,
>> bab
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 1:33 AM, James A. Perkins <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>> Linny,
>>
>> I just remembered that you also asked about the added cost of the different kind of lenses. I forgot to address that in my previous post.
>>
>>
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Date:    Thu, 11 Aug 2016 16:55:00 -0400
From:    Patricia Savage <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Discussion: Cataract surgery for artists

Cool idea about putting reading glasses on top of glasses. I am going to try that.

You guys are lucky. Neither of my eyes focus together at any distance anymore. Sigh. Been a real pain to do tight work. And trying to read a book, heavy sigh again. Great suggestion Karen!

Patricia Savage
Mayapple Studio
www.psavageart.com

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> On Aug 11, 2016, at 4:44 PM, Karen Ackoff <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> Yes, I second the motion.
>
> I’m not looking at cataract surgery yet. But I’m having difficulty since my optometrist of about 15 years retired. The first place I went told me I had a thinning macular layer in my eyes, which could lead to losing my sight. I was dubious, as they followed this with trying to sell me expensive vitamins. The next doctor I went to said there was no problem with my macular layer, but that I had early stage cataracts. I had glasses made there, and if I wear them, I quickly become nauseous. They insist the scrip is correct and I will get used to them, and they will not remake them. I tried a mail-order place just on a whim. But those glasses gave me double-vision, and I returned them (for a full refund, thankfully).
>
> Went to yet a 3rd place. They actually showed me all the test results and imagery and I do not have a thinning macular layer, no do I have cataracts. The glasses that make me ill are made to the wrong scrip. I ordered new lenses for some old frames, and with any luck I will actually be able to see out of them.
>
> Bruce, your vision sounds close to mine (my near vision focuses at about 3 inches). Do you have any problems finding a place to make your glasses? I’ve had this problem before when my optician retired. I get single vision distance lenses (can’t tolerate bifocals or progressive lenses - too much distortion), and I usually work with my nose to the drawing board sans glasses (most anyone can attest to this). If I need my mid-vision, I simply layer a pair of cheap reading glasses over my distance glasses, and this works well enough for computer work.
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Date:    Thu, 11 Aug 2016 14:03:51 -0700
From:    Linda Feltner <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Discussion: Cataract surgery for artists

Ben has double vision now, it's a muscular issue. He wears "prism" lenses, which pulls the focus together so he doesn't see two birds flying instead of one.

L.
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On Aug 11, 2016, at 1:55 PM, Patricia Savage wrote:

> Cool idea about putting reading glasses on top of glasses. I am going to try that.
>
> You guys are lucky. Neither of my eyes focus together at any distance anymore. Sigh. Been a real pain to do tight work. And trying to read a book, heavy sigh again. Great suggestion Karen!
>
> Patricia Savage
> Mayapple Studio
> www.psavageart.com
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Aug 11, 2016, at 4:44 PM, Karen Ackoff <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Yes, I second the motion.
>>
>> I’m not looking at cataract surgery yet. But I’m having difficulty since my optometrist of about 15 years retired. The first place I went told me I had a thinning macular layer in my eyes, which could lead to losing my sight. I was dubious, as they followed this with trying to sell me expensive vitamins. The next doctor I went to said there was no problem with my macular layer, but that I had early stage cataracts. I had glasses made there, and if I wear them, I quickly become nauseous. They insist the scrip is correct and I will get used to them, and they will not remake them. I tried a mail-order place just on a whim. But those glasses gave me double-vision, and I returned them (for a full refund, thankfully).
>>
>> Went to yet a 3rd place. They actually showed me all the test results and imagery and I do not have a thinning macular layer, no do I have cataracts. The glasses that make me ill are made to the wrong scrip. I ordered new lenses for some old frames, and with any luck I will actually be able to see out of them.
>>
>> Bruce, your vision sounds close to mine (my near vision focuses at about 3 inches). Do you have any problems finding a place to make your glasses? I’ve had this problem before when my optician retired. I get single vision distance lenses (can’t tolerate bifocals or progressive lenses - too much distortion), and I usually work with my nose to the drawing board sans glasses (most anyone can attest to this). If I need my mid-vision, I simply layer a pair of cheap reading glasses over my distance glasses, and this works well enough for computer work.
>>
>> K
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Date:    Thu, 11 Aug 2016 17:20:41 -0400
From:    Bruce Bartrug <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Discussion: Cataract surgery for artists

Karen, I have no trouble getting correct and well-fitted glasses.  I've
used the same optician and the same ophthalmologist for 30 years.   The
doctor, an excellent surgeon, is winding down to retirement, but he has a
younger partner that I'll be seeing on Monday.  Too, I live in an area of
small towns....if you mess people up you go out of business in a flash.

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Date:    Thu, 11 Aug 2016 23:40:56 +0000
From:    Will Smith <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Discussion: Cataract surgery for artists

Great discussion. Thanks to you all for the information provided. I especially liked the idea of a monocle and fencing scar. Very becoming.

From: SciArt-L Discussion List-for Natural Science Illustration- [mailto:[log in to unmask]EDU] On Behalf Of Linda Heagy
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Subject: Re: [SCIART] Discussion: Cataract surgery for artists


Hi everyone. I have been a member for some years now but rarely take part in the discussions although I have enjoyed and benefited from your great comments.

To fill you in on my background, I am 70 years old. Been a professional artist my whole life. I started out as a Fashion Illustrator, Graphic Designer, Art Director and Creative Director. Helped a friend establish Houragency Inc. (an ad agency in Ithaca, N.Y, back in the '70's),  then moved to Florida where I had my own Creative Studio in Coral Gables, FL.

Moved to Texas for a position as Art Director at Neiman Marcus in Dallas. Then left Advertising profession to pursue a Horticultural degree and eventually became a scientific botanical illustrator and designer of Floras.

Now, to my main reason for contacting my fellow members.
I have always had keen vision up-close but used glasses to see far away. However, now I use reading glasses on my up-close work and for reading fine print.

At 70 I (like many others my age) have cataracts developing. Specifically in my right eye. My Doctor is telling me I need the surgery to remove cataract and replace with a lenses and is asking me would I prefer one to see far away or one to see close.  As artists, you know my answer would be BOTH!

As artists, would not the logical answer be BOTH lenses: One for far away and one for up close. My doctor says they can put in both but Medicare and my supplemental insurance will not pay or the 2nd lens.


Question to you out there who have had the surgery and the same natural close up vision:

How much was the cost of the second lens?

Did the surgery successfully work for both up close and far away vision?

Was there an adjustment time?

Any other comments to share with me that might be helpful re: this discussion?

Linny Heagy
DBA: Linny/Designer, Illustrator
Arlington, TX



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Date:    Thu, 11 Aug 2016 21:40:59 -0500
From:    Karen Ackoff <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Discussion: Cataract surgery for artists

Bruce,

You are lucky to have had the same optician for so long.

Years ago, when I was in college, I had a pair of glasses made and had trouble with them. I tended to trip and fall down stairs a lot. Back then, I required prisms in my lenses to level out my vision. Turns out they reversed the prisms, making the problem worse. Not enough to give me obvious double vision but enough to distort things so that I misjudged things like where the steps were. They kept telling me I’d adjust.

I’m hoping the optometrist/optician I saw last week is "the one". I pick up a new pair (old frames, new lenses) in about a week.

K




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> Karen, I have no trouble getting correct and well-fitted glasses.  I've used the same optician and the same ophthalmologist for 30 years.   The doctor, an excellent surgeon, is winding down to retirement, but he has a younger partner that I'll be seeing on Monday.  Too, I live in an area of small towns....if you mess people up you go out of business in a flash.
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Date:    Thu, 11 Aug 2016 20:44:09 -0700
From:    Linda Ann Vorobik <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: scam or no scam

Hi all, long time no email from me.

Question...this looks like scam to me; let me know what you think.
Thanks much, lav
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Am interested in some of your products, do you ship to Switzerland and
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Let me know if i can e-mail you what am interested in ordering.

Thank you.

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