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Yes Derek, but Alaska is just a really, really cold part of Canada? Right?

 

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From: Entomological Collections Network Listserve [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Derek Sikes
Sent: September-14-16 3:02 PM
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Subject: Re: Guidance on digitizing specimens for a project

 

Ah,

I see these questions are answered here:

http://www.canadensys.net/publication/data-publication-guide

this first criterion is a doozy to the GenBank for specimens idea:

"You are associated with a Canadian collection or organization."

-Derek




 

On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Derek Sikes <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Colin,

Can you elaborate on this service that Canadensys provides individual researchers? Is anyone capable of submitting data in this manner?

What if the number of taxonomists wanting to share data this way starts growing exponentially?

Is this an attempt to create a 'GenBank for specimen data' sensu Meier & Dikow 2004?

-Derek

 

On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 4:12 AM, Colin Favret <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Hi Nico,

 

Canadensys publishes specimen datasets from individual researchers that are tagged with a DOI and pushed on to GBIF. For example, Marla Schwarzfeld has a dataset that includes specimens from multiple institutions tagged with a variety of unique identifiers, including her own.

 

Cheer, Colin 


 

 

On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 1:35 AM, Nico Franz <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Thank you, all.

 

   Sorry I dropped the ball there for a few days. I received several interesting off-line answers in addition. 

 

   I think I should also try to clarify. First off, for the (some) botanists - in entomology there is much less of a tradition of "creating duplicates" (of purportedly the same individual..thinking about branches of an oak tree here). Insect specimens overwhelmingly remain and travel "entire" (even following dissection). I hope that distinction is fair enough to most.

 

   Here is the conflict, as simple as I can state it. There is an institution that the specimens ultimately belong to, and that loans them out to a researcher. Then there is a researcher, not affiliated with the institution, who right now has resources and arguably needs to "publish" the specimens via iDigBio, GBIF, etc. (as well as other outlets such as a research journal).

 

   Let's assume that the owning institution just really does not have the resources right now. Not even to put a locally unique specimen identifier on it (or, it does that, but there is no digital counterpart). And the researcher does. Beyond writing a kind, explanatory e-mail, and figuring things out (idiosyncratically), is there some more widespread accepted practice for resolving this conflict? Answering "I use this or that portal that I happen to have access to and which does it for me", is not really a generally applicable answer, right?

 

   If not, should we as a community (in our most hopeful moments, anyway) consider creating one or more that are very open for contributions? Something like an open portal for digitizing and iDigBio-/GBIF-publishing research-relevant specimens of/for owner institutions that "just can't right now, sorry". 

 

Cheers,

 

Nico

 

On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 7:11 PM, Gil Nelson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Hi, Nico

I am not exactly sure what you are looking for, but here is a link to a set of community generated workflows for several disciplines.

https://www.idigbio.org/content/workflow-modules-and-task-lists

Are you looking for entomology workflows? If so, what groups in particular? Katja Seltmann would also be a good resource for this.

Best,

Gil



On 9/5/2016 1:56 PM, Nico Franz wrote:

Hi all:

   Is there a good reference (publication) I'm not aware of that guides one towards best practices for digitizing and iDigBio-/GBIF-publishing specimens from another source collection which has not yet done so, for the purpose of a revisionary project?

Best, Nico

 

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Gil Nelson, PhD
Assistant Professor/Research
iDigBio Steering Committee
Integrated Digitized Biocollections
Institute for Digital Information and Scientific Communication
College of Communication and Information

Courtesy Professor
Department of Biological Sciences
Robert K. Godfrey Herbarium
Florida State University
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Derek S. Sikes, Curator of Insects
Associate Professor of Entomology
University of Alaska Museum
907 Yukon Drive
Fairbanks, AK   99775-6960

[log in to unmask]

phone: 907-474-6278
FAX: 907-474-5469

University of Alaska Museum  -  search 347,746 digitized arthropod records
http://arctos.database.museum/uam_ento_all
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Interested in Alaskan Entomology? Join the Alaska Entomological
Society and / or sign up for the email listserv "Alaska Entomological Network" at
http://www.akentsoc.org/contact_us