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Don't you mean a wetter month? ;>)


On 1/17/2017 4:52 PM, Lady Rosalie Langmod wrote:
> I agree that it is distasteful when the spoken rule and whispered rule 
> differ so greatly.  Obviously there are reserved spots and if people 
> want the right to tell people not to camp in their traditional spot, 
> then they can pay for it and the kingdom can benefit.
>
> Perhaps, in as HL Ingiborg suggests,  we could map out 
> reserved/traditional spots more thoroughly, as well as setting aside 
> sections for "loners" (that are not the worse real estate to be had 
> within that plot)  in each camping area.
>
> After we move Lilies to a cooler month, of course. (*Ducks for cover.*)
>
> YIS,
> Rosalye
>
>
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> And if you come latter what is left is a super sloping wet spot full of
> hedge apple thorns and poison ivy...And still, someone else -not who you
> were told, camps in the spot right next to you you wanted and its all of
> a sudden OK.  I find it insanely frustrating to be told you can camp
> anywhere -there are no reserved spots, then you have to move, maybe more
> than once.   It's intimidating because NOTHING you can do will be right,
> and it feels very unfriendly, and unwelcoming.  Even as a peer this has
> happened to me.  I can't imagine how this must feel to someone less
> known or a brand new first timer.  It IS A PROBLEM.  Hence, I think we
> should  admit that there really are some traditional "reserved" spots,
> and ask that the privilege be be paid a little extra for. Then If you
> haven't paid for the privilege it doesn't matter what the tradition is.
> If someone is in your spot, suck it up and pay next time. This does
> mean privileged spots need be marked out.
>
> On 1/16/2017 12:33 PM, Volu-Ingibiorg wrote:
> > I know the idea behind having no assigned camping is to promote a 
> laid-back feel, but when I was a newcomer I was told by my local 
> group: "You're welcome to camp with us.  If not, probably no one will 
> mind if you set up in their traditional spot.  They might ask you to 
> move your tent over or something, though, if there's a reason a 
> particular tent in that spot is best for their group."  Someone else 
> chimed in, "Well, they might mind.  Some groups have done improvements 
> on their areas and may resent it if you take up enough space that one 
> of them has to move elsewhere because of trees or pathways.  And you 
> don't want to put your modern tent in the area claimed by the people 
> with the period encampment."
> > "How do I know what group camps where?"
> > "You just have to ask when you get to site.  You probably don't want 
> to be one of the first ones on."
> > As someone socially awkward, this was incredibly intimidating.  
> Money or no money, it could be less worrying and off-putting to new 
> folks if we could at least have a map marked with traditional spots, 
> and maybe more pathway signs to help folks not get lost.
> > I suspect better signage might encourage more second-time visitors, 
> too.  I know I almost didn't come back because of the frustration of 
> being repeatedly lost.  (If you ask for directions somebody can tell 
> you, "follow the path around that way," but when the path branches, or 
> opens out entirely, or you can't tell whether it's a real path or 
> you're rudely cutting through some household's private encampment...)
> >
> > -Ingibiorg
> >
> >
> > [quote]
> > #3 Open up the early on possibilities and charge for them, or make a 
> fee for reserved camping space. We say we don't have reserved space 
> but we really do by tradition. Why not charge a little for it and make 
> it “official”There are all sorts of ways this could be worked 
> including having groups like baronies pay for a tent to get there 
> reserved space. Perhaps a gang to set up tents for the older, lighter 
> of heart-but then there are transport, responsibility, and return 
> issues along with getting a crew to do it for
> > Gerald
> > [/quote]
> >
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