Sorry, it was the polyseal caps specifically. Why was polypropylene caps determined to be better than the polyseal, especially for the smaller sized vials?
-Michelle
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Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 1:54 PM
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not sure where "2 dram vials are discouraged" since the article explicitly states that is what we use.
Brett
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The grey rubber corks also dissolve.
I am also curious about why 2dram vials would be discouraged? We use them for the aphid collection. Larger vials are just not practical.
-Michelle
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One thing we discovered with our alcohol collection is that all of the "cork" materials broke down over time. True cork disintegrates. the orangy red latex corks liquefy turning to glue, and the synthetic corks (black, green, or whitish) often swell becoming impossible to remove.
Lynn
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I would like to thank Brett for sending out the Vial Support System PDF. The tubes and the metal drawers are an interesting option.
I was curious why 2 dram vials with Polyseal caps were not recommended. My experience with them has been very positive. After 20-30 years, I have had to top a few off, but even then I was not sure whether it was due to evaporation or that they had never been topped off to begin with. My guess is that most of these vials would be good for >50 years.
I do have a small percent of vials that fail if the vial is chipped or if the caps got dirty in the field and no one noticed, but that does not occur with valuable collections because I don't use bad vials or dirty caps with them.
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Subject: photos of other insect collections
FYI attached
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Subject: Re: Reference photos of other insect collections
Hi Christy,
That is a great idea - a colleague who's a new collection manager just asked me
for some contacts for alcohol collections - your idea will be helpful is showing
what other collections do. I have a few pictures from my collection and can
take more.
Sandy
Sandra L. Brantley, Ph.D.
Sr. Collection Manager
Arthropod Division - Alcohol Coll.
Museum of Southwestern Biology
MSC 03 2020
302 Yale Blvd. NE
University of New Mexico
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Hi Christy,
Thank you for your great offer! I truly believe that it would provide all a significant insight of good practices, ideas, hints, tips and tricks on various aspects of collection management. One idea of hosting such a collection would be to create a Scratchpads.eu site where users can also contribute, comment and distribute relevant material. The good thing is that in that way we could also maintain different groupings for subjects by tagging the same pictures on different clusters of information.
Anyway, I think it's a great idea and we should go for it!
Best,
Christos
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From: Entomological Collections Network Listserve [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Christy Bills
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 2:45 AM
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Subject: Reference photos of other insect collections
Hi all,
I find it extremely helpful to visit other insect collections to learn how things are done in other institutions. I take a lot of pictures, of jars, door handles, labels, cabinets, etc and refer back to them in my own practices. I'm wondering if a reference collection of images from other insect collections would be helpful to others?
And if so, what would be the best way to host the images? As files on the ECN facebook page, a google doc, possibly on the iDigBio site, or something else?
I'd love to hear what other people think of this idea.
Thanks for any input,
-Christy Bills
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