The Shire of al-Jafar in the Middle is named for one of the first people
who lived there. He died before the group went full status, so the naming
of the group doesn't have nearly the saga, but Jafar is another SCA person
who should not be forgotten.

Congratulations to the shire on getting the name honoring someone worth
remembering passed!


On Jun 22, 2017 7:12 PM, "Stefan li Rous" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Thank you!

I know of only one more SCA place that was named for a founder and that is
the Barony of Rowany (I think that's it), named for the first Baroness and
instrumental in getting the group going.

Lots of SCA names are based on unique local geography. This is the first
time I've heard of a group going back and finding more documentation after
the Heralds had turned something down, and getting the name they originally
wanted, approved..

I hadn't realized it was actually an older group, rather then one in the
throes of trying to get their first name through.

The heralds and the name research *is* getting better through the years. My
own barony, Bryn Gwlad, is supposed to be Welsh for "hill country" since we
are on the edge of the Texas Hill Country, but it apparently means
something like "land of the indeterminate hill". Registered around 1982, I

PS: I'd love any more stories for Calontir group names that aren't in any
of the three Florilegium placenames-msg file

On Jun 22, 2017, at 1:47 PM, Berry Canote <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Greetings Stefan,

The Shire is named for Amleth MacAuleth. He was the founder of the
neighboring Shire of Standing Stones, perhaps the first SCA branch in
Missouri. He passed a few years before our shire was founded so it was a
way to ensure his name was not forgotten. Mor i.e. Moor describes much of
the terrain around here.

The name was first submitted as Amleth Moor, but this was rejected by the
College of Heralds for mixing English with Danish. As the shire was ready
to become official and a name was needed the College suggested Amlesmore.
That name was taken, and we went by that until last night when the new name
was registered.

A resubmission of Amleth Moor was made a few years later, but it was again
rejected on the same grounds. A few years passed when a couple of years ago
I came up with the idea of putting the name fully in Old Norse/Danish thus
Amlethsmor. This would negate the reason for rejection the first two times.

I documented as best I could. There were over ten pages of documentation.
Even so the name would have been rejected on the grounds Amlethus was not a
real person, but Lillia Pelican Emerita found a byname Amleth in Middle
English and was able to document Amlethsmor.

Thus after nearly twenty years we have a form of the name the shire wanted.

In Service,

On Jun 22, 2017 12:41 PM, "Stefan li Rous" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Can anyone tell me what the new name stands for and/or why it was selected?

Thanks. I'm always looking for the backgrounds and reasons for verious SCA
place names, for the SCA-placenames-msg series of files in the Florilegium.


On Jun 21, 2017, at 11:24 PM, Berry Canote <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Greetings All!

With the release of the April 2017 Letter of Acceptances and Returns
tonight, the Shire of Amlesmore (Amleth Moor) is now officially the Shire
of Amlethsmor.

In Service,
Lord Hubert de Stockleye
Amlethsmor Seneschal
Herald at Large

THLord Stefan li Rous    Barony of Bryn Gwlad    Kingdom of Ansteorra
   Mark S. Harris           Austin, Texas          [log in to unmask]
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