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Hi Ann,
Thanks for the tip!  I did look at Pages but could not find the way to
format it to my necessary (8 x 10") page size or number of pages (144).
What am I missing?
Best,
Marlene

On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 8:43 AM Ann Zyg <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Hi Marlene,
> I’m new to this group but I’m member of GNSI. I’m a graphic
> designer/illustrator and have done many layout pages for self-published
> books, my own dummy books and, also collateral material in ID.
>
> I discovered for dummy books that there are templates in Pages that will
> also give the same result. It’s actually easier, especially if you’re new
> to ID. You can import the doc text and convert the tiff files to jpgs to
> import into the body of the text for each page. Print out or send as a PDF.
> In this way, an editor will have an idea of a layout format that you prefer
> and/or may consider.
>
> If you are really pressed for time, create a paper dummy book and draw in
> text boxes and art placement boxes on each page using grid paper, pencil
> and a ruler. The editor(s) will see your vision and may consider some
> layout elements when/if they present the dummy to their design dept.
>
> Also, I’m sure you will receive a proof before the book goes to press as
> well.
>
> Hope these suggestions are a little helpful. Good Luck!
> Regards,
> Annie
>
> On Jul 27, 2019, at 11:17 PM, Karen Ackoff <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> See below.
> K
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 27, 2019, at 8:55 PM, Marlene Donnelly <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks for your help!  This group is the best. This will just be for dummy
> purposes-- I can't imagine that U of C Press would be using ID.  The text
> file is docx (is there an easy way of importing tiff files into that?).
>
>
> Drag and drop. Note that you’ll need to supply the publisher with the Tiff
> filed, not just within the docx file.
>
> I wouldn’t be at all surprised if the publisher uses Indy or Quark. These
> are industry standard. Software that organizes pages into signatures should
> be left to the printer.
>
> Ask the publisher if they have a template so you can apply standard page
> size, margins, type size, etc. emphasize it’s just to give you an idea;
> you’ll leave the layout to them.
>
>
> The publisher has its own book designers, but I'd like to get a feel for
> the layout before it goes to U of C so we know ahead of time if there will
> be necessary text cuts (another can of worms).  I have about a week:(.  Is
> this just ridiculous?  I can believe there are plenty of gotchas in ID.
>
> Dwaine, thanks so much for your generous offer, you may well hear from me!
>
> Best,
> Marlene
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 7:12 PM Dwaine Best <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Marlene,
>>
>> What are you importing from? Where is the book layout now? Is it laid
>> out in some other program?
>>
>> I have some experience with ID and I’m happy to help as far as I can.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Dwaine
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 4:12 PM [log in to unmask]
>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> >
>> > Well, Marlene, ...it is a different Adobe format. You might be better
>> cajoling a regular user into helping you - not that I can volunteer :(
>> >
>> > Are you expecting that your layout is a dummy or what they will use?
>> What about finding a student if it’s a dummy.
>> >
>> > I suspect that they do not use ID themselves, unless they have told you
>> that they do…but really I have no idea. As you know, one of the things that
>> the press has to do with the software is assemble the pages so that they
>> are printed in a sequence that allows them to be cut apart and assembled
>> correctly. The printer the Journal uses does take our ID file and do that
>> with the Journal, but the Journal has only one stapled unit.
>> >
>> > How much time is there?
>> >
>> > Best on this! I am excited to see the book!!
>> >
>> > For sure you can pore over the digital layout that they do. You might
>> ask them to lay out one chapter so you can have a real discussion about
>> format with them.
>> >
>> > -Clara
>> >
>> > On Jul 27, 2019, at 6:52 PM, Marlene Donnelly <
>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> >
>> > Dear all,
>> > We have a book going to press soon with the University of Chicago
>> Press; a science/art book intended to emphasize art along with a somewhat
>> minimal but highly accurate science text.  My issue is that both the art
>> and text are nearly complete but I'm not at all sure of how they will
>> combine, nor how much white space will remain (we want a fair amount).  We
>> want to know how much cutting may be necessary and don't want to lay all
>> that on the publisher.
>> >
>> > My pretty silly question:  how difficult is InDesign, given that I have
>> never used it and have a very tight deadline?  All I need is to import the
>> text and illustrations into designated format and page count and see what
>> it looks like.  Is there an easier way?
>> > Thanks so much,
>> > Marlene
>> >
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