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Hi Ann, Thanks for the tip! I did look at Pages but could not find the way to format it to my necessary (8 x 10") page size or number of pages (144). What am I missing? Best, Marlene On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 8:43 AM Ann Zyg <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Hi Marlene, > I’m new to this group but I’m member of GNSI. I’m a graphic > designer/illustrator and have done many layout pages for self-published > books, my own dummy books and, also collateral material in ID. > > I discovered for dummy books that there are templates in Pages that will > also give the same result. It’s actually easier, especially if you’re new > to ID. You can import the doc text and convert the tiff files to jpgs to > import into the body of the text for each page. Print out or send as a PDF. > In this way, an editor will have an idea of a layout format that you prefer > and/or may consider. > > If you are really pressed for time, create a paper dummy book and draw in > text boxes and art placement boxes on each page using grid paper, pencil > and a ruler. The editor(s) will see your vision and may consider some > layout elements when/if they present the dummy to their design dept. > > Also, I’m sure you will receive a proof before the book goes to press as > well. > > Hope these suggestions are a little helpful. Good Luck! > Regards, > Annie > > On Jul 27, 2019, at 11:17 PM, Karen Ackoff < > [log in to unmask]> wrote: > > See below. > K > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 27, 2019, at 8:55 PM, Marlene Donnelly <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > > Thanks for your help! This group is the best. This will just be for dummy > purposes-- I can't imagine that U of C Press would be using ID. The text > file is docx (is there an easy way of importing tiff files into that?). > > > Drag and drop. Note that you’ll need to supply the publisher with the Tiff > filed, not just within the docx file. > > I wouldn’t be at all surprised if the publisher uses Indy or Quark. These > are industry standard. Software that organizes pages into signatures should > be left to the printer. > > Ask the publisher if they have a template so you can apply standard page > size, margins, type size, etc. emphasize it’s just to give you an idea; > you’ll leave the layout to them. > > > The publisher has its own book designers, but I'd like to get a feel for > the layout before it goes to U of C so we know ahead of time if there will > be necessary text cuts (another can of worms). I have about a week:(. Is > this just ridiculous? I can believe there are plenty of gotchas in ID. > > Dwaine, thanks so much for your generous offer, you may well hear from me! > > Best, > Marlene > > > > On Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 7:12 PM Dwaine Best <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> Hi Marlene, >> >> What are you importing from? Where is the book layout now? Is it laid >> out in some other program? >> >> I have some experience with ID and I’m happy to help as far as I can. >> >> Cheers, >> Dwaine >> >> On Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 4:12 PM [log in to unmask] >> <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> > >> > Well, Marlene, ...it is a different Adobe format. You might be better >> cajoling a regular user into helping you - not that I can volunteer :( >> > >> > Are you expecting that your layout is a dummy or what they will use? >> What about finding a student if it’s a dummy. >> > >> > I suspect that they do not use ID themselves, unless they have told you >> that they do…but really I have no idea. As you know, one of the things that >> the press has to do with the software is assemble the pages so that they >> are printed in a sequence that allows them to be cut apart and assembled >> correctly. The printer the Journal uses does take our ID file and do that >> with the Journal, but the Journal has only one stapled unit. >> > >> > How much time is there? >> > >> > Best on this! I am excited to see the book!! >> > >> > For sure you can pore over the digital layout that they do. You might >> ask them to lay out one chapter so you can have a real discussion about >> format with them. >> > >> > -Clara >> > >> > On Jul 27, 2019, at 6:52 PM, Marlene Donnelly < >> [log in to unmask]> wrote: >> > >> > Dear all, >> > We have a book going to press soon with the University of Chicago >> Press; a science/art book intended to emphasize art along with a somewhat >> minimal but highly accurate science text. My issue is that both the art >> and text are nearly complete but I'm not at all sure of how they will >> combine, nor how much white space will remain (we want a fair amount). We >> want to know how much cutting may be necessary and don't want to lay all >> that on the publisher. >> > >> > My pretty silly question: how difficult is InDesign, given that I have >> never used it and have a very tight deadline? All I need is to import the >> text and illustrations into designated format and page count and see what >> it looks like. Is there an easier way? >> > Thanks so much, >> > Marlene >> > >> > -- >> > Marlene Hill Donnelly >> > Scientific Illustrator >> > The Field Museum >> > (312) 665-7638 >> > >> > ________________________________________________ >> > >> > Need to leave or subscribe to the Sciart-L listserv? 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