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I haven't seen this one, either.

Way down under "Plan" #3. Set the *Reimburse* amount (typically between 
$200 and $500 USD).

So there is some small payment intended. However, that depends entirely 
on the success of his future crowdfunding campaign. I didn't read it in 
detail. I read enough to agree with Gail that this sounds like naivete, 
or presumption. I meet and hear from a lot of project managers who are 
new to the field, and they are still uneducated. Disappointing, 
extremely. I agree also with Elizabeth, if he comes up with real money, 
it might be of interest to some illustrators. Best, Linda

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P.O. Box 325, Hereford, AZ 85615
520.803.0538
www.lindafeltner.com
On 9/6/19 9:51 AM, Elizabeth Morales wrote:
> Interesting, Taina! I haven’t seen this one before.
>
> I looked this guy up, apparently a bona fide software developer, I think he works in British Columbia from his recent resume entries. Sometime these weird and detailed requests are some kind of bogus entity. This is, apparently, a real person named Dave Jarvis.
>
> If you go to the link that shows his project thus far, it indeed does look like the work of inexperienced student illustrators. If he has paid for some of this work, as he mentions, my guess is that the rates must be low.
>
> I agree. I would say thanks but no thanks. Maybe if he came back with real money you might consider doing some of this, or turning it over to an illustrator who can benefit from the job.
>
> cheers
> Elizabeth Morales
>>
>>
>>> On Sep 6, 2019, at 10:29 AM, Taina Litwak <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I got a pretty detailed proposal today in an email and wonder if I am the only one who finds it insulting.  I can only imagine he will be reaching out to many of us, as I am certainly not a tetropod specialist.  This is how I answered him, and what he proposed:
>>>
>>> Dear Dave,
>>>
>>> I am pleased you like my work, but really?  Its an interesting project, but you are basically me to do A LOT for you, essentially for nothing, and then give my illustration away in perpetuity through Creative Commons licensing.  I would never "volunteer" to do this sort of work, and I seriously doubt any other real professional would either.  I am a scientific illustrator, and I have made a living doing this for 35 years.  This is not a hobby, though it is a passion.
>>>
>>> I would think you will get few takers, though you may attract some younger inexperienced students.  The products they produce, with only your vague suggestion that they find (on their own) and show their work in progress to "scientists" is an almost certain recipe for inaccuracy or outright copying of scientifically established work.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Taina Litwak
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Taina Litwak, CMI
>>> Litwak Illustration Studio
>>> 13029 Chestnut Oak Drive
>>> Darnestown, MD 20878
>>>
>>> office: 202-633-4561
>>> mobile: 240-750-9245
>>>
>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__agresearchmag.ars.usda.gov_2014_sep_insect_&d=DwIFaQ&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=AGYZ7-AeerjxzYnIwL-lBLFI3SPYN3BDmku4qGQB4Tg&m=mdBdlKOJwDe3sqaDx40z5kVuxQiYJiiG9uEQTfhfUr8&s=XUckPeOOTEyE5QrIaVtZ-_caoPy4rS8liCQJtH3hSR8&e=
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Dave Jarvis" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: "Taina Litwak, CMI" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 6, 2019 1:59:42 AM
>>> Subject: Impacts Project: Tetrapod Illustration
>>>
>>> Hi Taina,
>>>
>>> I'm a software developer who wants to increase public awareness about
>>> Earth's natural history and the impacts of burning fossil fuels. I found
>>> your portfolio while searching for scientific illustrators. I am looking
>>> for volunteers (see below) to help finish illustrating a photobook of
>>> events from astronomy to present day. If you can make time between now
>>> and late October to help, or know someone who may, please read on.
>>>
>>> *Progress*
>>>
>>> The first draft of the text is finished, including most illustrations:
>>>
>>> * https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__dave.autonoma.ca_impacts-2Dscreen.pdf&d=DwIFaQ&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=AGYZ7-AeerjxzYnIwL-lBLFI3SPYN3BDmku4qGQB4Tg&m=mdBdlKOJwDe3sqaDx40z5kVuxQiYJiiG9uEQTfhfUr8&s=8y11mqpE9fE8ZJkkItBEkuoGFRDNXow5nzbDeYzUsKE&e=
>>>
>>> *Crowdfunding*
>>>
>>> To reimburse artists for their work, I created a crowdfunding campaign,
>>> which raised insufficient capital. I plan to do more market research
>>> (niches of dentists, environmental lawyers, museums, and scientists) in
>>> advance of the second crowdfunding campaign (probably Kickstarter).
>>> Reimbursement is contingent on the campaign's success, as such I cannot
>>> guarantee payment.
>>>
>>> If you have other fundraising ideas (such as posters), do let me know.
>>>
>>> *Plan*
>>>
>>> If you would like to help:
>>>
>>> 1. Put your *Name* in the spreadsheet
>>>    <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spreadsheets_d_1wzcwWcEKB5irk3ArtJAL219oeGcPSjBvRUMsEzgLm8Y_edit-23gid-3D737505339&d=DwIFaQ&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=AGYZ7-AeerjxzYnIwL-lBLFI3SPYN3BDmku4qGQB4Tg&m=mdBdlKOJwDe3sqaDx40z5kVuxQiYJiiG9uEQTfhfUr8&s=SEMRFWGxZt1X_mtkTS4pGTjqFQwSL9YsXtI703Pn1Ck&e= >
>>>    beside Tetrapods.
>>> 2. Set the *Date* for when you estimate the artwork will be finished.
>>> 3. Set the *Reimburse* amount (typically between $200 and $500 USD).
>>> 4. Review interpretations of the event you've selected (some artists
>>>    share their work with scientists to ensure accuracy).
>>> 5. Illustrate the event as time allows.
>>> 6. Send me a copy of the work (as AI or SVG).
>>>
>>> *Technical*
>>>
>>> Illustrations are to meet the following specifications:
>>>
>>> * Shaded vector graphic
>>>      o SVG- or AI-only (using vector brushes), neither raster graphics
>>>        nor conversion from raster to vector
>>>      o See pages 1, 8, 12, 15, 17, 19, 20, and 21 for stylistic examples
>>> * Dimensions of 4:1 (e.g., 4000 x 1000)
>>> * Palette provides overall cohesion, gradients are fine (see attached)
>>>      o Note that blue is reserved for space-based illustrations (teal
>>>        is okay)
>>> * RGB colour space
>>>
>>> *Illustration Details**
>>>
>>> *Some thoughts on the depiction:*
>>> *
>>>
>>> * *Sketch.* Providing an early draft (B&W) may prove helpful.
>>> * *Context.* Have the tetrapod picture /transition/ (pun, sorry),
>>>    stylistically, between its neighbouring illustrations: Vertebrates
>>>    (p.15) and Amniotes (p.17).
>>> * *Shaded vector graphic.* Illustrations 15, 17, 18, 19, and 20 are
>>>    great examples of the shaded vector graphics that provide further
>>>    cohesion between the drawings.
>>> * *Engaging story.* Related pictures and aspects of them that are
>>>    appealing:
>>>      o https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__upload.wikimedia.org_wikipedia_commons_8_84_Muzeum-5FEwolucji-5FPAN-5F-2D-5FTiktaalik.JPG&d=DwIFaQ&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=AGYZ7-AeerjxzYnIwL-lBLFI3SPYN3BDmku4qGQB4Tg&m=mdBdlKOJwDe3sqaDx40z5kVuxQiYJiiG9uEQTfhfUr8&s=xbiXCGYb1q7bmljcHjbOh3fH5iqzJW7uUdUOXNV4HwQ&e=
>>>          + The /open jaws/, showing the /teeth/, evokes a little
>>>            /primordial fear/ and sparks the imagination
>>>          + Being /partially out of water/ is wonderful symbolism
>>>      o https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.deviantart.com_dustdevil_art_Tiktaalik-2Drosaea-2D78289861&d=DwIFaQ&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=AGYZ7-AeerjxzYnIwL-lBLFI3SPYN3BDmku4qGQB4Tg&m=mdBdlKOJwDe3sqaDx40z5kVuxQiYJiiG9uEQTfhfUr8&s=b4WrPzwYXxI3ZlT7-A3K9aU8XXgIGHlT_TS7LtkYZ_4&e=
>>>          + Environmental interaction
>>>          + Capturing an invertebrate is a symbolic gesture (e.g.,
>>>            foreshadowing humans destroying bee colonies); though
>>>            Tiktaalik was probably a fish-eater
>>>          + Epoch-appropriate flora
>>>      o https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__bryangee.weebly.com_uploads_1_0_1_8_101874914_wk1-2Denghcacops-5Forig.jpg&d=DwIFaQ&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=AGYZ7-AeerjxzYnIwL-lBLFI3SPYN3BDmku4qGQB4Tg&m=mdBdlKOJwDe3sqaDx40z5kVuxQiYJiiG9uEQTfhfUr8&s=XYxNHPEUhgAczE4ojuF5J12WOm3AeI6fxqSUSGAeNgc&e=
>>>          + Although it isn't Tiktaalik, it has /palpable action/
>>>          + Easy to imagine the outcome of the event
>>>          + Eye closed while "striking" is a great little detail
>>>      o https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__i.imgur.com_ZW04sLn.jpg&d=DwIFaQ&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=AGYZ7-AeerjxzYnIwL-lBLFI3SPYN3BDmku4qGQB4Tg&m=mdBdlKOJwDe3sqaDx40z5kVuxQiYJiiG9uEQTfhfUr8&s=yJYRvuxsVNBULje5OxxQZXe9E_KAY-EVrUkEAfwvE3A&e=
>>>          + /Lifting itself/ out of the water
>>> * *Three.* Theme of three: three vertebrates, mammals, amniotes,
>>>    dinosaurs, and tetrapods
>>> * *Addendum.* Additional resources:
>>>      o Aquatic–terrestrial transitions of feeding systems in
>>>        vertebrates: a mechanical perspective
>>>        <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__jeb.biologists.org_content_221_8_jeb154427&d=DwIFaQ&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=AGYZ7-AeerjxzYnIwL-lBLFI3SPYN3BDmku4qGQB4Tg&m=mdBdlKOJwDe3sqaDx40z5kVuxQiYJiiG9uEQTfhfUr8&s=49uK8pzXZq8PT9ZoR9h7GdSpKpVxR305xs7Q49dS8qA&e= >
>>>      o https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3DP92AiEiSiys&d=DwIFaQ&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=AGYZ7-AeerjxzYnIwL-lBLFI3SPYN3BDmku4qGQB4Tg&m=mdBdlKOJwDe3sqaDx40z5kVuxQiYJiiG9uEQTfhfUr8&s=hDB9i8U5yxH3AqKatBPSur6Phr0eYdAVRJHgbkdIHts&e= - background and
>>>        imagery of Tiktaalik
>>>
>>> *Photobook*
>>>
>>> See attached a 3D render of what the photobook may look like.
>>>
>>> *Copyright*
>>>
>>> Artists own the copyright and agree that anyone may use the art for
>>> commercial purposes by licensing the artwork under a Creative Commons
>>> Commercial License (where attribution is required).
>>>
>>> Thank you Taina, I appreciate you taking time to read this note.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
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