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Hi Margaret, Just to add to the mix, The Yale Peabody Museum has a Natural Science Illustration certificate program which has been in existence since 2009. I am one of the founders and instructors there. You can access a description of our program at peabody.yale.edu and ctnsi.com. I would be happy to field any questions you might have about the program. We have access to all the natural science collections from the museum, which we use on a regular basis for our classes. Dorie Dorie Petrochko Senior Instructor-Natural Science Illustration Program Yale Peabody Museum of Natural History 170 Whitney Avenue New Haven, CT 06511 www.p <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.ctnsi.com&d=DwIBaQ&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=AGYZ7-AeerjxzYnIwL-lBLFI3SPYN3BDmku4qGQB4Tg&m=rGsNCWY-xE1Z9gVJa5IKcsJFO1bUOyD2h42IGauM1fI&s=Wt0FWg9IFl2wCVs7UieeNT_VA0bj_VFo9ImyZBAt6rQ&e= >eabody.yale.edu/education https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.aviartis.com&d=DwIBaQ&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=AGYZ7-AeerjxzYnIwL-lBLFI3SPYN3BDmku4qGQB4Tg&m=rGsNCWY-xE1Z9gVJa5IKcsJFO1bUOyD2h42IGauM1fI&s=dD1v0flQ7Ou81EXjgrsSARirBJkvT7cK35oyk2evVb8&e= 203-507-0356 On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 9:56 AM Margaret Oliver <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Good morning everyone, > > I've been wanting to attend a certificate program for natural science > illustration for a long time and finally feel in a position to start going > forward with it (very exciting). I'm hoping to hear people's thoughts on > these three programs in particular: > CSU Monterey Bay, UW, and RISD. > > Although I have a couple science degrees I've had a decent amount of > formal art training over the years and I feel like Monterey Bay and UW are > both more geared towards people who already have most of the necessary art > skills, since they require portfolios), whereas RISD is open enrollment and > requires some core coursework to start off (not necessarily a bad idea to > get some refreshers while also learning new skills and techniques). RISD's > program is also by far the longest at ~3 years (CSU is ~10 months + > internship, UW is 8 months) but interested students can get started > whenever they want to (a major plus in my book). Unfortunately, UW is on > hiatus until October 2021 for restructuring and since I know Monterey Bay > is pretty competitive I would plan on spending the next year preparing my > portfolio and getting the required letters of recommendation. > > I know I've seen a few things in GNSI's journal over the years on Monterey > Bay's program and I get the sense that it and UW might both prepare their > students for entering the field a little better. But RISD has such a good > reputation as a whole! > > Does anyone have strong opinions or thoughts about any of these programs? > Thanks very much for any advice you're willing to offer! > > ________________________________________________ > > Need to leave or subscribe to the Sciart-L listserv? Follow the > instructions at > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.gnsi.org_listservList&d=DwIBaQ&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=AGYZ7-AeerjxzYnIwL-lBLFI3SPYN3BDmku4qGQB4Tg&m=rGsNCWY-xE1Z9gVJa5IKcsJFO1bUOyD2h42IGauM1fI&s=iwfa_qmiv02yVjo3GXYj7RmPSY2zeXFsr0h3DpWb5pQ&e= name is Sciart-L > Problems: Email Lana Johnson at [log in to unmask] > Instructions to subscribe or leave the list are at https://www.gnsi.org/listserv List name is Sciart-L Problems: Email Lana Johnson at [log in to unmask]