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This is getting interesting!

I’m semi-retired but presently teaching at a local community college part-time. We are using Zoom. I think at its basic level, Zoom is pretty straightforward, but it can get a little daunting on a deeper level. 

My program chair said to me, well now that you’re going online, you ought just offer the course online in the future. Taking a face-to-face course online is NOT the same as designing an online course. Also, It would mean twice the students for the same pay. I think a number of us are going to be resisting these kinds of requests.

That aside, we are using Zoom. It feels a little awkward, but I’ll adapt. Zoom does some very nice things… 

I sometimes show videos from YouTube or other sites. When In Zoom, I share my screen. In order for participants to hear the audio track from a video, you need to share your computer’s audio IN ADDITION to the screen share. The option exists at the bottom of the screen showing your share choices (specific apps, the entire screen, whiteboard, etc.). 
Students can share their screen with me, and I can request remote control. This really helps me if I want to show them how to do something on a project. The hard part is getting students to take their hands off the mouse while I am trying using it. It should be noted that to make this work, you need to give Zoom the option of controlling your computer - System Prefs > Privacy > zoom.us.app on a Mac. This can be turned off/on as needed.
Something else that is handy... I have students whose main goal in life is to play video games. Teaching remotely gives them ample opportunity to have Zoom open but not pay attention. There is an option for “attention tracking”. I set this up to generate an attendance record. But it also shows if a participant has zoom open, but is not actively engaged. Well that happens now and again, so I wouldn’t worry if someone was shown as not paying attention for a minute or two. But today, it showed one student as not paying attention for the entire class. I hate policing student behavior. But at least I can document the problem.

If anyone wants to practice or try any of the above, I’d be glad to lend a hand. Just give me a shout.

K

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> On Mar 25, 2020, at 7:37 PM, [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> Lore, that would probably be exactly what Mark and Patricia need. I am only participating, not running anything myself.
> -Clara
> 
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>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 2:17 PM, Lore Ruttan <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>> 
>> I am using Zoom also and find it very easy to navigate. If anyone wanted to try out zoom I would be happy to host a conference call. 
>> 
>> One thing we are learning is that you want to make a conference private rather than public or you risk being photobombed - look it up in NYT.
>> 
>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 2:10 PM Patricia Savage <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>> Yes, hear! hear! We, too are looking into this a NC Botanical Garden and I am clueless.
>> 
>> Patricia Savage
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>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 2:03 PM, Marjorie Leggitt <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
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>>> Clara and all else who are using zoom as a teaching tool...please share more info. We are looking into this approach at Denver Botanic Gardens. 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Marj
>>> 
>>> Leggitt Design
>>> 303.394.0566
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>>>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:27 AM, "[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>" <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi everyone from Frank and me,
>>>> 
>>>> I am loving all these quotes. I find it scary to be simply told to stay indoors, away from the sky. So far I can still go out to see the sky, but how long that will continue is unsure. The Hemingway courage one seems really appropriate.
>>>> 
>>>> Frank is teaching using Zoom, a studio class (2 actually), and his reaction to the idea of increasing class size is NO. The teacher still has to keep track of everyone, and give them attention. So far this on line teaching is taking way more time for him than regular.
>>>> 
>>>> Stay safe everyone. We sure look forward to 2021.
>>>> 
>>>> -Clara
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 12:23 PM, Sue Burrus <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Have to say my own quote, which my mother never let me forget, seems more and more relevant, “If you do the impossible often enough, you get used to it.”
>>>>> Sue Burrus
>>>>> Redmond, WA
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 9:14 AM, C Olivia Carlisle <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I was inspired to add to Linda Feltner’s quote in her 25March2020 email…
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> “...I had a quote on a post-it for many years. "When emotions rise, intelligence falls."   We have difficulty in thinking straight when we are highly stressed.  Putting our heads together could help…”
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> One of my supervisor’s quote: “When faith is down, fear is up…When Faith is up, fear is down…” This supervisor was a Minister, I proofed all of his Masters and PhD papers during his Divinity studies at Howard University; inspired by his accomplishments, continued my UGA studies...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From Ernest Hemingway: “…definition of Courage…Grace under pressure…”
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> With Sincere Appreciation to everyone for all of your guidance and inspiration,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> C Olivia Carlisle
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Scientific Illustration, Photographic Fine Art, Graphic Design
>>>>>> Guild of Natural Science Illustrators
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>>>>>> “Take Flight And Soar With Your Dreams”
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:14 AM, Linda Feltner <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
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>>>>>>> Hi Lore:
>>>>>>> Clearly, there are two sides (maybe more :)  to each issue and solution. We will encounter both in the months to come.  
>>>>>>> I entirely agree that there will be great innovations that evolve from necessity.  It's good to share both the positive and the negative. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Linda
>>>>>>> ____________________________
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>>>>>>> On 3/25/20 8:01 AM, Lore Ruttan wrote:
>>>>>>>> Responding to Linda's friend's boss.... Granted I teach at the HS level, but I feel like what is making this successful so far is being able to maintain the relational piece of teaching. I'm lucky to be teaching at a private school with small classes so I can do that!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 10:52 AM Linda Feltner <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi Elizabeth, I hope you and your family are well.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I've just had a conversation with a colleague (name withheld on purpose)  who says their Chair suggested that since they are going to on-line classes, the Chair now feels the educator can cope with doubling the size of the class--for the same pay.....
>>>>>>>> This sort of conversation is going on now. One may have a boss who is just a jerk, or working for a business that sees economical pressure in general. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Elizabeth, you bring an excellent suggestion of comparing notes when we are back to "normal".  That might take a long while.  I think your idea could be helpful to those who may be struggling with how to cope with these challenges now.  Putting our heads together may provide helpful suggestions that may reduce stress levels for our educators, as well illustrators in general.  We could do that with this ListServ. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I had a quote on a post-it for many years. "When emotions rise, intelligence falls."   We have difficulty in thinking straight when we are highly stressed.  Putting our heads together could help. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Take care,
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Linda
>>>>>>>> ____________________________
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>>>>>>>> 520.803.0538
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>>>>>>>> On 3/25/20 7:17 AM, Elizabeth Morales wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Like many of my GNSI colleagues, I have been working from my home studio for many years. So my interaction with clients and most GNSI friends has been largely online. But you know, this feels very very different — this feeling of extreme inconvenience with a bass note of fear and terror.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Good luck to all dealing with this new world of digital instruction. Everyone I know who teaches is trying to get up to speed on Zoom to produce serviceable online classrooms. (One friend who is a dance instructor is producing videos in her living room. I’ve been beta-testing them for her!)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Perhaps, when we are back to normal (unappreciated until now?) we can have a panel discussion at our next annual meeting about how we all coped with these challenges, what creative work-arounds we created to keep our work moving along.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Best to all,
>>>>>>>>> Elizabeth
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
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