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PM if you want to try out zoom. I can't show you the advanced functions that Karen knows but you can at least try going in and see what it looks like. On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 8:57 PM Deb Haines < [log in to unmask]> wrote: > Here is a great link that gets you started for both PC/MAC > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__support.zoom.us_hc_en-2Dus_articles_201362033-2DGetting-2DStarted-2Don-2DWindows-2Dand-2DMac-3Fmobile-5Fsite-3Dtrue&d=DwIFaQ&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=AGYZ7-AeerjxzYnIwL-lBLFI3SPYN3BDmku4qGQB4Tg&m=j1SWqd89X02X2uh_Qm0kjikkR5YJ4Yp9XcNN8lC18ps&s=Hfba0ClucAShkQG3CD5QvuijpjCP_Fovo6NZ8j95lOQ&e= > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__support.zoom.us_hc_en-2Dus_articles_201362033-2DGetting-2DStarted-2Don-2DWindows-2Dand-2DMac-3Fmobile-5Fsite-3Dtrue&d=DwMFaQ&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=AGYZ7-AeerjxzYnIwL-lBLFI3SPYN3BDmku4qGQB4Tg&m=h9Jv0z4QAMgwRzLZLzPIkFoaCK7N1YqdOaPKiO15Cjc&s=P0XGkuWmbTEl-Fsr3QDnqm6vLBuTJIPXVAi-5bzBJq0&e=> > > Because everyone is doing online teaching bgg there may be some lag time > getting signed up but this will get you started. > > Also do a search on YouTube for instructional videos. It's pretty simple > once you get used to the interface. > > Best, > Deb > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__go.onelink.me_107872968-3Fpid-3DInProduct-26c-3DGlobal-5FInternal-5FYGrowth-5FAndroidEmailSig-5F-5FAndroidUsers-26af-5Fwl-3Dym-26af-5Fsub1-3DInternal-26af-5Fsub2-3DGlobal-5FYGrowth-26af-5Fsub3-3DEmailSignature&d=DwMFaQ&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=AGYZ7-AeerjxzYnIwL-lBLFI3SPYN3BDmku4qGQB4Tg&m=h9Jv0z4QAMgwRzLZLzPIkFoaCK7N1YqdOaPKiO15Cjc&s=u6Dkqa5SK1qkA7mDNoZKxUOxX81T5zxY2eVvbxVcFt8&e=> > > On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 4:57 PM, Patricia Savage > <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Can we set up a date for a call? I have an illustration deadline the third > Friday of April though. I should be able to squeeze out time for this > though. Actually, I will make the time. What dates work for you all? > > Patricia Savage > P_savageart.com > > Sent from my iPad > > On Mar 25, 2020, at 8:39 PM, "[log in to unmask]" < > [log in to unmask] wrote: > > > > Lore, that would probably be exactly what Mark and Patricia need. I am > only participating, not running anything myself. > -Clara > > > On Mar 25, 2020, at 2:17 PM, Lore Ruttan <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > I am using Zoom also and find it very easy to navigate. If anyone wanted > to try out zoom I would be happy to host a conference call. > > One thing we are learning is that you want to make a conference private > rather than public or you risk being photobombed - look it up in NYT. > > On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 2:10 PM Patricia Savage <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > > Yes, hear! hear! We, too are looking into this a NC Botanical Garden and I > am clueless. > > Patricia Savage > P_savageart.com > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__p-5Fsavageart.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=AGYZ7-AeerjxzYnIwL-lBLFI3SPYN3BDmku4qGQB4Tg&m=ckM67VbhGxnx1Kil_NJvPuKCAglZXd41oAwpcGNtB_g&s=uLDReY6NSf-zFdn3f9Kp-MptXCMXFrEc22EsAWBSZ8k&e=> > > Sent from my iPad > > On Mar 25, 2020, at 2:03 PM, Marjorie Leggitt <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > Clara and all else who are using zoom as a teaching tool...please share > more info. We are looking into this approach at Denver Botanic Gardens. > > Thanks, > > Marj > > Leggitt Design > 303.394.0566 > > On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:27 AM, "[log in to unmask]" < > [log in to unmask]> wrote: > > Hi everyone from Frank and me, > > I am loving all these quotes. I find it scary to be simply told to stay > indoors, away from the sky. So far I can still go out to see the sky, but > how long that will continue is unsure. The Hemingway courage one seems > really appropriate. > > Frank is teaching using Zoom, a studio class (2 actually), and his > reaction to the idea of increasing class size is NO. The teacher still has > to keep track of everyone, and give them attention. So far this on line > teaching is taking way more time for him than regular. > > Stay safe everyone. We sure look forward to 2021. > > -Clara > > On Mar 25, 2020, at 12:23 PM, Sue Burrus < > [log in to unmask]> wrote: > > Have to say my own quote, which my mother never let me forget, seems more > and more relevant, “If you do the impossible often enough, you get used to > it.” > Sue Burrus > Redmond, WA > > On Mar 25, 2020, at 9:14 AM, C Olivia Carlisle < > [log in to unmask]> wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > I was inspired to add to Linda Feltner’s quote in her 25March2020 email… > > “...I had a quote on a post-it for many years. *"When emotions rise, > intelligence falls."* We have difficulty in thinking straight when we > are highly stressed. Putting our heads together could help…” > > One of my supervisor’s quote: *“When faith is down, fear is up…When Faith > is up, fear is down…”* This supervisor was a Minister, I proofed all of > his Masters and PhD papers during his Divinity studies at Howard > University; inspired by his accomplishments, continued my UGA studies... > > From Ernest Hemingway: *“…definition of Courage…Grace under pressure…”* > > With Sincere Appreciation to everyone for all of your guidance and > inspiration, > > C Olivia Carlisle > > Scientific Illustration, Photographic Fine Art, Graphic Design > Guild of Natural Science Illustrators > carlisleillustration.squarespace.com > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__carlisleillustration.squarespace.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=AGYZ7-AeerjxzYnIwL-lBLFI3SPYN3BDmku4qGQB4Tg&m=kOXF6Qk4FzsbYWUrRxp67iN89mebuaUAZ0kBBNOsD6c&s=kk9AIk_adT8ceFPpDyD94xsDijPdyO0OPviYuVclkDk&e=> > “Take Flight And Soar With Your Dreams” > > On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:14 AM, Linda Feltner <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > > Hi Lore: > Clearly, there are two sides (maybe more :) to each issue and solution. > We will encounter both in the months to come. > I entirely agree that there will be great innovations that evolve from > necessity. 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I'm lucky to be teaching at a > private school with small classes so I can do that! > > On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 10:52 AM Linda Feltner <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > > Hi Elizabeth, I hope you and your family are well. > > I've just had a conversation with a colleague (name withheld on purpose) > who says their Chair suggested that since they are going to on-line > classes, the Chair now feels the educator can cope with doubling the size > of the class--for the same pay..... > This sort of conversation is going on now. One may have a boss who is just > a jerk, or working for a business that sees economical pressure in general. > > Elizabeth, you bring an excellent suggestion of comparing notes when we > are back to "normal". That might take a long while. I think your idea > could be helpful to those who may be struggling with how to cope with these > challenges now. Putting our heads together may provide helpful suggestions > that may reduce stress levels for our educators, as well illustrators in > general. We could do that with this ListServ. > > I had a quote on a post-it for many years. "When emotions rise, > intelligence falls." We have difficulty in thinking straight when we are > highly stressed. Putting our heads together could help. > > Take care, > Cheers, > Linda > ____________________________ > Linda M. Feltner Artist LLC > P.O. 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But you know, this feels very very different — this > feeling of extreme inconvenience with a bass note of fear and terror. > > Good luck to all dealing with this new world of digital instruction. > Everyone I know who teaches is trying to get up to speed on Zoom to produce > serviceable online classrooms. (One friend who is a dance instructor is > producing videos in her living room. I’ve been beta-testing them for her!) > > Perhaps, when we are back to normal (unappreciated until now?) we can > have a panel discussion at our next annual meeting about how we all coped > with these challenges, what creative work-arounds we created to keep our > work moving along. > > Best to all, > Elizabeth > > > ________________________________________________ > > Need to leave or subscribe to the Sciart-L listserv? 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