Two thumbs up on the ORCIDs for people in collections databases! I saw that Alaska Museum has that in their Arctos DB, and it looks like a nice feature for disambiguating people. On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 12:34 PM Dikow, Torsten < [log in to unmask]> wrote: > Hi all, > > I would rather vote for implementation of the new Darwin-Core fields > recordedByID and identifiedByID - see tweet by GBIF > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_GBIF_status_1244892796034703361&d=DwIFaQ&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=-lUMCZ4RK28H4qvcd3vmEBuyVJHHG0OpDzFenR9wX-A&m=VTlPlVQiIwAncPOyy32WyjfWh26UgnTBalG5XZNvovk&s=foTh0oNRyPBLAVWdqMIrnDQazfs_J6ROdHA4mbD3RNA&e= > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_GBIF_status_1244892796034703361&d=DwMGaQ&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=-lUMCZ4RK28H4qvcd3vmEBuyVJHHG0OpDzFenR9wX-A&m=fIxfQDqBDTWRuaBBtLLn1lqnii-zpWtZREAOoRsg6rk&s=Xb5MwG3vnb-MMhTXeJnolvEGmzGm29z4UKIKKhSsO2g&e=> - > and adding ORCIDs or WikiData Q numbers for people in your databases to > disambiguate them. That way, no matter how a person's name is abbreviated, > shortened, or used, it points to the same individual. Bloodhound Tracker > also will take advantage of these fields and David Shorthouse has just > submitted a new data-set to GBIF using these fields > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_dpsSpiders_status_1258137166997270531&d=DwIFaQ&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=-lUMCZ4RK28H4qvcd3vmEBuyVJHHG0OpDzFenR9wX-A&m=VTlPlVQiIwAncPOyy32WyjfWh26UgnTBalG5XZNvovk&s=e5ffIeUdhoqjUGIQSeJFgRFsr8et4yynkBammkwAqyU&e= > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_dpsSpiders_status_1258137166997270531&d=DwMGaQ&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=-lUMCZ4RK28H4qvcd3vmEBuyVJHHG0OpDzFenR9wX-A&m=fIxfQDqBDTWRuaBBtLLn1lqnii-zpWtZREAOoRsg6rk&s=NLgRIAh1tq9nkp8d737LxLMszfJOP1chozSoUW_oFAs&e=> > . > > Best wishes, Torsten > > . . . . . > Torsten Dikow, Ph.D. > Research Entomologist for Diptera > w 202.633.1005 [log in to unmask] > > SMITHSONIAN INSTITUTION > NATIONAL MUSEUM OF NATURAL HISTORY > > . . . asiloidflies.si.edu > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__asiloidflies.si.edu_&d=DwMGaQ&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=-lUMCZ4RK28H4qvcd3vmEBuyVJHHG0OpDzFenR9wX-A&m=fIxfQDqBDTWRuaBBtLLn1lqnii-zpWtZREAOoRsg6rk&s=JdYIqH1Xi4dQsdGDhmFuICm_tIEqk0AsFFJfdIZFhkM&e=> > > . . . @TDikow > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.twitter.com_TDikow&d=DwMGaQ&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=-lUMCZ4RK28H4qvcd3vmEBuyVJHHG0OpDzFenR9wX-A&m=fIxfQDqBDTWRuaBBtLLn1lqnii-zpWtZREAOoRsg6rk&s=d2Ym-6fkyHwACDTaPMzowUKxh70W_6_a3suzHo8lGzA&e=> > #asiloidflies > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_search-3Ff-3Dtweets-26q-3Dasiloidflies&d=DwMGaQ&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=-lUMCZ4RK28H4qvcd3vmEBuyVJHHG0OpDzFenR9wX-A&m=fIxfQDqBDTWRuaBBtLLn1lqnii-zpWtZREAOoRsg6rk&s=8cDTsHkjWtO5j8OjKcl4Jho7yOtdECUd6n1gZNl5JIo&e=> > #USNMDiptera > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_search-3Ff-3Dtweets-26q-3D-23USNMDiptera&d=DwMGaQ&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=-lUMCZ4RK28H4qvcd3vmEBuyVJHHG0OpDzFenR9wX-A&m=fIxfQDqBDTWRuaBBtLLn1lqnii-zpWtZREAOoRsg6rk&s=ybehN2oLSjtnm5JueLAp7GUOR4EHYj5gG1LPZfQrQqE&e=> > > . . . SI Entomology staff page > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__naturalhistory.si.edu_staff_torsten-2Ddikow&d=DwMGaQ&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=-lUMCZ4RK28H4qvcd3vmEBuyVJHHG0OpDzFenR9wX-A&m=fIxfQDqBDTWRuaBBtLLn1lqnii-zpWtZREAOoRsg6rk&s=JPYjM4bJHD1E98_Xnti8LP5IZaNESJN4x8xk6az_f8s&e=> > > . . . access to research data at ORCiD > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__orcid.org_0000-2D0003-2D4816-2D2909&d=DwIFaQ&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=-lUMCZ4RK28H4qvcd3vmEBuyVJHHG0OpDzFenR9wX-A&m=VTlPlVQiIwAncPOyy32WyjfWh26UgnTBalG5XZNvovk&s=nxJSk0TvB9YUOvIh6n3onsKEqN6eh00ZcqwFHWhZ9-4&e= > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__orcid.org_0000-2D0003-2D4816-2D2909&d=DwMGaQ&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=-lUMCZ4RK28H4qvcd3vmEBuyVJHHG0OpDzFenR9wX-A&m=fIxfQDqBDTWRuaBBtLLn1lqnii-zpWtZREAOoRsg6rk&s=yGwbnQ_fuk62--H6RLgEkzBCFe0623Z7IS72W76GP7s&e=> > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Entomological Collections Network Listserve < > [log in to unmask]> on behalf of Katja Seltmann <[log in to unmask] > > > *Sent:* Thursday, May 7, 2020 11:21 > *To:* [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> > *Subject:* Re: database and collector's names > > > *External Email - Exercise Caution* > If you have not seen it yet, check out https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__bloodhound-2Dtracker.net_&d=DwIFaQ&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=-lUMCZ4RK28H4qvcd3vmEBuyVJHHG0OpDzFenR9wX-A&m=VTlPlVQiIwAncPOyy32WyjfWh26UgnTBalG5XZNvovk&s=5wVJlMq2JFcbPyGu0x7wrqqGpouluyeO3L5aZjI3l5c&e= > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Furldefense.proofpoint.com-252Fv2-252Furl-253Fu-253Dhttps-2D3A-5F-5Fbloodhound-2D2Dtracker.net-5F-2526d-253DDwMFaQ-2526c-253DCu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX-5Frg6kWhlkLF8Eft-2Dwwo-2526r-253D-2DlUMCZ4RK28H4qvcd3vmEBuyVJHHG0OpDzFenR9wX-2DA-2526m-253DXqJR7m24Nyr6guq5wnTLcpXAgquRzaDqfbcJJpw-5FbvU-2526s-253DQm0uD2esB0nYzzzI-5FekpELsnQTBJZaCos5boY2ndID8-2526e-253D-26data-3D02-257C01-257Cdikowt-2540SI.EDU-257Cc29e21fa1edb455ec38308d7f29bd4e8-257C989b5e2a14e44efe93b78cdd5fc5d11c-257C0-257C0-257C637244623423161934-26sdata-3DK2cPy4m2DfYbV-252BNW-252B5rBunfBI42qG-252BVNQIzigQbxJGI-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMGaQ&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=-lUMCZ4RK28H4qvcd3vmEBuyVJHHG0OpDzFenR9wX-A&m=fIxfQDqBDTWRuaBBtLLn1lqnii-zpWtZREAOoRsg6rk&s=XeV6HfzqRNn0M4FXrX7v11fLYw0o0ji0NOT7sFPG32I&e=> It > is a fun application built to track (and cluster) names of people who > collect and identify specimens. I was pretty amazed to see how many > versions of my name were out there. > > "verbatimRecordedBy" might be a good candidate for community contribution > for Darwin Core? There are many verbatim fields for sharing information, > but not one for collector. The process of changing the standard starts with > submitting a issue about it (documenting it) here: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_tdwg_dwc_blob_master_.github_CONTRIBUTING.md&d=DwIFaQ&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=-lUMCZ4RK28H4qvcd3vmEBuyVJHHG0OpDzFenR9wX-A&m=VTlPlVQiIwAncPOyy32WyjfWh26UgnTBalG5XZNvovk&s=_LzDegFEkGgiWJ_w1_-a6rolCmFkXsg2uS0OzO_w0sM&e= > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Furldefense.proofpoint.com-252Fv2-252Furl-253Fu-253Dhttps-2D3A-5F-5Fgithub.com-5Ftdwg-5Fdwc-5Fblob-5Fmaster-5F.github-5FCONTRIBUTING.md-2526d-253DDwMFaQ-2526c-253DCu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX-5Frg6kWhlkLF8Eft-2Dwwo-2526r-253D-2DlUMCZ4RK28H4qvcd3vmEBuyVJHHG0OpDzFenR9wX-2DA-2526m-253DXqJR7m24Nyr6guq5wnTLcpXAgquRzaDqfbcJJpw-5FbvU-2526s-253DjjHrBnjRnsMQbqRasf8JQobuZQFKxvDhO8siCIdtHY4-2526e-253D-26data-3D02-257C01-257Cdikowt-2540SI.EDU-257Cc29e21fa1edb455ec38308d7f29bd4e8-257C989b5e2a14e44efe93b78cdd5fc5d11c-257C0-257C0-257C637244623423161934-26sdata-3DYTQ9uBT5AsWNlKzsopByhn8nadORz6-252B-252BOOSYMhD7988-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMGaQ&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=-lUMCZ4RK28H4qvcd3vmEBuyVJHHG0OpDzFenR9wX-A&m=fIxfQDqBDTWRuaBBtLLn1lqnii-zpWtZREAOoRsg6rk&s=8TwtFmMzRefLwhtn12y_VDNvgIyZjOVWfIWLrRMKmL8&e=> > > We would need to make the request: > * Submitter:* > Proponents (at least two independent parties who need this term): > * Justification (why is this term necessary?): > > Best, > Katja > > > > > On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 4:59 PM Neil Stanley Cobb <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > > Thanks for the correction Pam! > > > > *From:* Entomological Collections Network Listserve < > [log in to unmask]> *On Behalf Of *Pamela Horsley > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 6, 2020 3:50 PM > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* Re: database and collector's names > > > > Katja would know, but from a recent discussion with her, this is not a > great candidate for putting in the dynamicProperties field. If you do put > it in there, I think the format would be verbatimCollector:RB Hawkins, but > having the space is not good and it is just not the correct use of dynamic > properties. I would put this in Occurrence Remarks or Field Notes. > > > > I will be making a similar decision soon with Collectors in Specify, > although I'm pretty sure you can variants like Crystal and Rachel mention. > BUT... in SCAN, I would probably write in the full name in Collector and > then have verbatimCollector in Occurrence Remarks. > > > > Good luck! > > Pam > > > > On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 3:32 PM Neil Stanley Cobb <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > > So I would put it into dynamicProperties and ideally it would be in json > format – Katja would know. > > > > I assume the MCZ "master" agent record was created by Paul Morris. It > would be interesting to see where that capability is for all cms systems. > I like putting in verbatim agent in a master table better than the dynamicProperties > option, but is the master agent table only available in the MCZ database? > > > > *From:* Entomological Collections Network Listserve < > [log in to unmask]> *On Behalf Of *Zhuang, Mingna > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 6, 2020 3:27 PM > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* Re: database and collector's names > > > > Hi Christy, > > > > We also do things similar to MCZ in terms of attaching collector names > that are obvious. For ones that are not obvious, the system we use (Arctos) > has "verbatim collector" as an attribute. SCAN harvests our data from > Arctos and puts it into "Dynamic properties" when you view the full record > details. > > > > Hope that helps, > > Vicky (Mingna) Zhuang Ph. D. > > UTEP Biodiversity Collections Manager > > B209 Biology Building > > Biological Sciences > > University of Texas El Paso > > 500 University Ave > > El Paso, TX, 79968 > > Phone: 915-747-5479 > > Instagram: @utepbc > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Furldefense.proofpoint.com-252Fv2-252Furl-253Fu-253Dhttps-2D3A-5F-5Ftwitter.com-5Futepbc-2526d-253DDwMFAw-2526c-253DCu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX-5Frg6kWhlkLF8Eft-2Dwwo-2526r-253D-2DlUMCZ4RK28H4qvcd3vmEBuyVJHHG0OpDzFenR9wX-2DA-2526m-253DfeDfmunsU8DIOiALi6Yd14f7yOfi-2DnThKiMgyNNKbnM-2526s-253Dz4cGK6FPK7vtJcUDb6f-5F9B7IQoRCBBYrtAd4KLx0c8E-2526e-253D-26data-3D02-257C01-257Cdikowt-2540SI.EDU-257Cc29e21fa1edb455ec38308d7f29bd4e8-257C989b5e2a14e44efe93b78cdd5fc5d11c-257C0-257C0-257C637244623423171891-26sdata-3DP0FpQNdxi4hSiuEv8blTeUo0HSN4u4qwDdNjLYfAd9c-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMGaQ&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=-lUMCZ4RK28H4qvcd3vmEBuyVJHHG0OpDzFenR9wX-A&m=fIxfQDqBDTWRuaBBtLLn1lqnii-zpWtZREAOoRsg6rk&s=9bf1pshfPvZPdFZ74hntUisGFLNIQqqDpFaXCpl3eBo&e=> > twitter: @utepbc > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Furldefense.proofpoint.com-252Fv2-252Furl-253Fu-253Dhttps-2D3A-5F-5Fwww.instagram.com-5Futepbc-5F-2526d-253DDwMFAw-2526c-253DCu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX-5Frg6kWhlkLF8Eft-2Dwwo-2526r-253D-2DlUMCZ4RK28H4qvcd3vmEBuyVJHHG0OpDzFenR9wX-2DA-2526m-253DfeDfmunsU8DIOiALi6Yd14f7yOfi-2DnThKiMgyNNKbnM-2526s-253DCInhk-5FB4Ym2GQ66VyW5W5uGl5AI2pCrOZMx-2DCMiY738-2526e-253D-26data-3D02-257C01-257Cdikowt-2540SI.EDU-257Cc29e21fa1edb455ec38308d7f29bd4e8-257C989b5e2a14e44efe93b78cdd5fc5d11c-257C0-257C0-257C637244623423171891-26sdata-3DWrQ8dWSS9evcrDY23lv-252FUsQCNAmxqzM9WfUP3Of3WRU-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMGaQ&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=-lUMCZ4RK28H4qvcd3vmEBuyVJHHG0OpDzFenR9wX-A&m=fIxfQDqBDTWRuaBBtLLn1lqnii-zpWtZREAOoRsg6rk&s=eRewzFJULBjHL844cEPAEwuZG--mS7qvsvBaIjX9l54&e=> > Facebook: UTEP Biodiversity Collections > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Furldefense.proofpoint.com-252Fv2-252Furl-253Fu-253Dhttps-2D3A-5F-5Fwww.facebook.com-5Futepbiodiversitycollections-5F-2526d-253DDwMFAw-2526c-253DCu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX-5Frg6kWhlkLF8Eft-2Dwwo-2526r-253D-2DlUMCZ4RK28H4qvcd3vmEBuyVJHHG0OpDzFenR9wX-2DA-2526m-253DfeDfmunsU8DIOiALi6Yd14f7yOfi-2DnThKiMgyNNKbnM-2526s-253D4FeLo94MNeXtA-5Fz7-2DIEU9xYi3oVF-2DPpnUEA50iVIyf4-2526e-253D-26data-3D02-257C01-257Cdikowt-2540SI.EDU-257Cc29e21fa1edb455ec38308d7f29bd4e8-257C989b5e2a14e44efe93b78cdd5fc5d11c-257C0-257C0-257C637244623423181848-26sdata-3DZauZgCYjxiM-252F73f-252FDwgQLxNs7VJC1DU6IIDzdIMMi5A-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMGaQ&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=-lUMCZ4RK28H4qvcd3vmEBuyVJHHG0OpDzFenR9wX-A&m=fIxfQDqBDTWRuaBBtLLn1lqnii-zpWtZREAOoRsg6rk&s=Jkcl9xByB50NZK23B-TLUhbGLFvuPKJIZnGCFhdY6N8&e=> > > Website > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Furldefense.proofpoint.com-252Fv2-252Furl-253Fu-253Dhttps-2D3A-5F-5Fwww.utep.edu-5Fbiodiversity-5F-2526d-253DDwMFAw-2526c-253DCu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX-5Frg6kWhlkLF8Eft-2Dwwo-2526r-253D-2DlUMCZ4RK28H4qvcd3vmEBuyVJHHG0OpDzFenR9wX-2DA-2526m-253DfeDfmunsU8DIOiALi6Yd14f7yOfi-2DnThKiMgyNNKbnM-2526s-253D78Gb3dvxhXfVskg7jn5FaL-2DapZ2tRSKETlQdzc427xc-2526e-253D-26data-3D02-257C01-257Cdikowt-2540SI.EDU-257Cc29e21fa1edb455ec38308d7f29bd4e8-257C989b5e2a14e44efe93b78cdd5fc5d11c-257C0-257C0-257C637244623423181848-26sdata-3DHVs8YvG1Zhaa3JbALZe5dgXjQrp-252Fd8bc7qIAyIrr74o-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMGaQ&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=-lUMCZ4RK28H4qvcd3vmEBuyVJHHG0OpDzFenR9wX-A&m=fIxfQDqBDTWRuaBBtLLn1lqnii-zpWtZREAOoRsg6rk&s=C_BmYsejOl4qeAJrEZ55v94BaWr8WsKwMrasUSGkhxg&e=> > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Entomological Collections Network Listserve < > [log in to unmask]> on behalf of Maier, Crystal < > [log in to unmask]> > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 6, 2020 4:13 PM > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* Re: database and collector's names > > > > Hi Christy, > > > > We don't have a "verbatim collector" field in MCZBase. We attach the > collector name to the specimen that best fits the specimen label, unless > there is some ambiguity. > > > > If the label says "J. Smith" I will attach a person [agent] called "J. > Smith", unless there's come context that says otherwise. > > If it just says "Smith" we attach a person [agent] called "Smith", unless > there's come context that says otherwise. > > If it says "M. Thayer" [sorry, Margaret!] we'll attach the person [agent] > "Margaret Thayer" since that's a distinct enough name. > > > > One can add taxonomic or institutional knowledge to help guide, but when > in doubt, I would go with a more general person [agent] > > > > This is a case for having either a "verbatim label" field for the > specimen, or label images attached to the record that serve as a voucher in > cases of interpretation. > > > > Hope that makes sense! > > > > Crystal > > > > > > On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 6:06 PM Christy Bills <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > Quick question: > > > > When you are databasing specimens, if the label has a collector's > initials, or some other shortened version of their name, but you know who > it is, do you transcribe into the database who you are 99% sure the > collector is or do you faithfully record the label data exactly as is? > > > > We are using Symbiota/SCAN and I don't see a field where it would be > appropriate to make a notation that we made that assumption (like "verbatim > collector data"). > > > > Is this just me? tbh, I'm finding it difficult to concentrate since this > has all gone down! > > Happy to get replies just to me so we don't clutter this list. > > > > Thank you! > > > > > Christy Bills > Invertebrate Collections Manager > Natural History Museum of Utah > 301 Wakara Way > Salt Lake City, Utah 84108 > > pronouns: she/her > > > > > > \ / > \ / > 0 0 > -{ }- > -{ }- > -( )- > / \ > > > > > -- > > Crystal A. 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