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Thank you so much - this is perfect!!

Kathy

> On Aug 14, 2020, at 1:58 PM, Karen Ackoff <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> Kathy,
> 
> I looked at your drawings and would recommend the following:
> Make a NEW LAYER and make sure you are in this layer.
> Using the pen tool (vector), make a path for the stem and make any adjustments to the curvature. In the Control panel, I chose PATH (as opposed to SHAPE). Your path will be saved as a temporary WORK PATH. SAVE PATH if you want to revisit it or edit it in the future. You could just draw the stem using the BRUSH tool, but I find that using the PEN tool gives more grace to curves.
> Choose the foreground color. 
> Choose the BRUSH tool from the Tools panel. In the BRUSHES panel, choose the brush and size you want (this make take some trial and error, but you can always UNDO and choose different settings). 
> Make sure your path is selected (click on the path in the PATHS panel). From the PATHS panel menu, choose STROKE PATH. Choose BRUSH from the drop down menu. It will stroke the path with the settings you made for BRUSH. 
> Deselect the path by clicking off of it in the PATHS panel.
> Go to the new layer which should have the stroke you applied to the path. You can Command-click on the layer thumbnail and this will select anything in the layer. 
> Hit delete to remove the fill.
> Go to Edit > Stroke and choose the thickness of the stroke and color, and whether you want to stroke inside, outside or centered on the selection. Hit OK.
> Deselect. You can then erase portions where you have another leaf or whatever coming off the stem.
> Done!
> I’m not sure if this is what you are asking… but I hope it’s of some help.
> 
> K
> 
> PS I’m working with the most recent version of Photoshop.
> 
> 
>> On Aug 14, 2020, at 9:46 AM, Griswold, Britt (GSFC-279.0)[LUSA Associates] <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
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>> Kathy,
>>  
>> Can you be real specific about what “line” tool you are using in Photoshop CC? I am having a hard time following your explanation.
>>  
>> Britt
>>  
>> From: SciArt-L Discussion List-for Natural Science Illustration- <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> on behalf of Kathleen Garness <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>> Reply-To: SciArt-L Discussion List-for Natural Science Illustration- <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>> Date: Friday, August 14, 2020 at 12:00 AM
>> To: "[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>" <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>> Subject: Re: [SCIART] [EXTERNAL] [SCIART] hollow line tool in CC?
>>  
>> Chris, what threw me with this new CC line tool is that you wanted to create an outline around the line, you had to select the fill, either null (the background) or a color or texture or whatever. It was staring me in the face, but there are several new tools and tweaks that I’m learning to deal with, so it’s okay. 
>>  
>> What I did was select the line tool, then set the width of the line, the width of the stroke  (a bit further left on the palette), then select what kind of fill (to the left of that). To make a hollow line that I can shape into a stem or pedicel or petiole or whatever, I select ’no fill’. And then the anchor points on the line tool box can be manipulated to shape the line as one pleases. Once I learned how to do this in CS4 and CS5 I never went back to pen and ink work. It really helped with the work flow of this project I finished last year: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__fieldguides.fieldmuseum.org_guides_guide_1189&d=DwIFaQ&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=AGYZ7-AeerjxzYnIwL-lBLFI3SPYN3BDmku4qGQB4Tg&m=l1wY73a7IY4jPVZ8E_uHoX0p2qVfUAQ48Lq15Uhuu8s&s=Eguhj0gtfJAlU2SqjR9q4_cupxNveaEwF1NZcIyjJrI&e=  <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__fieldguides.fieldmuseum.org_guides_guide_1189&d=DwMFaQ&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=AGYZ7-AeerjxzYnIwL-lBLFI3SPYN3BDmku4qGQB4Tg&m=KLhhmEtA1LPERhQ4CzugdOCMPqRC_rdeqZiLJ8uxGoM&s=kJNraReL_9vXvUFnP25kfYmHWTYe7WBYqtiRu2pksjg&e=> as well as its predecessor  https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__fieldguides.fieldmuseum.org_guides_guide_503&d=DwIFaQ&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=AGYZ7-AeerjxzYnIwL-lBLFI3SPYN3BDmku4qGQB4Tg&m=l1wY73a7IY4jPVZ8E_uHoX0p2qVfUAQ48Lq15Uhuu8s&s=I_MIoD-BfM8pdOEQFZOUojYi_Vex9zcvZhvSwonwgO4&e=  <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__fieldguides.fieldmuseum.org_guides_guide_503&d=DwMFaQ&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=AGYZ7-AeerjxzYnIwL-lBLFI3SPYN3BDmku4qGQB4Tg&m=KLhhmEtA1LPERhQ4CzugdOCMPqRC_rdeqZiLJ8uxGoM&s=S-f_4fh_CLWG1dgeS0lY3zlAZq3yv3MTwoDQB1ZgjO0&e=>.  But the new CC suite has some learning curves to it. I really appreciate everyone’s help!! <3 I have another guide in process, due out next year sometime, I hope.
>>  
>> Warmly,
>>  
>> Kathy G
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 13, 2020, at 4:02 PM, Chris Gralapp <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> And this is in Photoshop?  Can you give a bit more detail? 
>>>  
>>> >^..^<
>>> Chris Gralapp, MA, CMI, FAMI
>>> Medical/Scientific Illustration
>>> 415.454.6567
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>>> On 8/13/2020 1:09 PM, Kathleen Garness wrote:
>>>> What I stumbled upon was Line>select size>Stroke>select size>Fill>no fill. Woot!  I’m figuring this out as I go. The toolbar is just different enough from CS5, with more options, that maybe I’m overthinking everything. Also, I guess it autosaves. I read several complaints about the save permissions feature. I’ll have to ask my son who has some magic where he can look into the depths of my computers from 100 miles away. ;)
>>>>  
>>>> Kathy
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 13, 2020, at 3:04 PM, Chris Gralapp <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>> Kathy,
>>>>> 
>>>>>  I would like a hollow line tool, too.  How did you make it?
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> >^..^<
>>>>> Chris Gralapp, MA, CMI, FAMI
>>>>> Medical/Scientific Illustration
>>>>> 415.454.6567
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>>>>>  
>>>>> On 8/13/2020 12:55 PM, Kathleen Garness wrote:
>>>>>> I just created a line tool, then selected ’stroke’, and it became hollow.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Kathy
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> On Aug 13, 2020, at 2:44 PM, Griswold, Britt (GSFC-279.0)[LUSA Associates] <[log in to unmask]> <mailto:[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> How was the hollow line created in CS5?  Is it a brush style? You may be able to export the brush and then import it into CC.
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> Britt
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> On 8/13/20, 2:11 PM, "SciArt-L Discussion List-for Natural Science Illustration- on behalf of Kathleen Garness" <[log in to unmask] on behalf of [log in to unmask]> <mailto:[log in to unmask]@COMCAST.NET> wrote:
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>    Hi; I do a lot of technical botanical work in Photoshop CS5 and have been forced to upgrade to Creative Cloud. I’m not finding out how to do a hollow line in CC like I was able to in CS5, such as to create stems, etc.. Any hints on how I can go about that?
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>    Thanks so much,
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>    Kathy G
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