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You can also look at Affinity Photo and Affinity Designer and Affinity Publisher as inexpensive Photoshop,  Illustrator and InDesign alternatives ($50 ea.). Purchase, not subscription…
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Date: Sunday, November 15, 2020 at 12:14 PM
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [SCIART] Question about "staying" with Photoshop CS6

Thanks for the feedback John.

I have had a license for Graphic Converter for years and an Upgrade to their latest version was quite inexpensive.  In lieu of starting a Photoshop CC subscription, I may try to determine whether I can do the most of what I do on PhotoShop CS6  using that program on my MacBook Pro or just stick with the sole copy I have of CS6 on my aging, but functional, iMac.  (I do think I have crossed the proverbial Rubicon in terms of having upgraded my MacOS from High Sierra to Big Sur on the MacBook Pro. I don’t think I want to try downgrading back to High Sierra.  If  I "bite the bullet” and inaugurate a subscription to Photoshop CC on that machine will likely depend on whether I can make Graphic Converter or GIMP freeware take the place of CS6.  But as I said in my earlier communication, I accept my foolishness in making the OS upgrade so recklessly.

Thanks again,
Mike





On Nov 15, 2020, at 11:45 AM, John Megahan <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:

It's not too difficult to downgrade from the latest Mac operating systems. I installed Catalina when it came out but I started having difficulty with CC, and of course CS6 won't run on it, or Big Sur, at all. So I downgraded to Mojave, reinstalled CC, and things have worked much better since. I don't know how well CS6 works with Mojave, but I'm pretty sure you can downgrade further if necessary.

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With downgrading I don't use any migration assistants or anything. I simply duplicate all of my image and document files onto a separate drive.

Apple is pushing some kind of melding of OSX and iOS. And while there may be some benefits for Apple, for those of us who have to use their software professionally it is a pain in the rear. I'm actually beginning to look at Windows 10. Gasp. I've used it a couple times on my son's machine and it seems to work quite well. But, yeah, I realize that doesn't help with those who have invested so much in Macs.

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On Sun, Nov 15, 2020 at 10:21 AM Michael Rothman <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
Hi Gail,
My iMac is from 2012 and has 16GB of RAM installed.  Apple’s site devoted to upgrading to Big Sur has a list of machines that can accept the installation.   Mine is too old, but you’ll be able to check out the compatibility of your own unit against their list.

Mike


On Nov 15, 2020, at 10:02 AM, Gail Guth <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:

What year is your iMac, Michael? I'm in no hurry at all to upgrade to Big Sur, but maybe I can't anyway. My iMac is a 2017.

-Gail



On 11/15/20 9:55 AM, Michael Rothman wrote:
Thanks for the feedback Kathleen.  I just finished a project last week and as they say,  I was “itching" to try something new, so impulsively I downloaded Big Sur on my merely-five-year-old MacBook Pro.   Ergo, I completely disabled the previously installed  copy of Photoshop CS6 and will have to go to a subscription version.   Stupidly, I read about the non-compatibility of “legacy” (=unsupported), versions of Photoshop on the Adobe website after I did the download.  Oh well, now I have to contend with the mess I made, but in years past this kind situation would have been far more wrenching.  (Fortunately, my desktop iMac still functions anyway and that is still running High Sierra with Photoshop CS6 and it is impossible to upgrade the iMac to Big Sur anyway, malgré lui (=in spite of myself), which probably explains my cheerful resignation).
Cheers,
Mike




On Nov 14, 2020, at 8:50 PM, Kathleen Garness <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:

I had to spring for a new mac a few months ago and my son with all his IT skills was not able to move over my legacy versions of Adobe to it. Hence the grudging subscription to CC. He did install a photoshop alternative but it’s been a bit of a steep learning curve and it didn’t successfully open any of the documents I’m currently working on, so that kind of forced my hand. I’m sure more skilled artists will weigh in here!

Kathy G


On Nov 14, 2020, at 7:30 PM, Michael Rothman <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:

Hi Everyone,

I have been reading, with some apprehension, about the various complications members have encountered as they have moved beyond Photoshop CS6 and MacOS X (High Sierra 10.13.6) into the realm of Subscription Photoshop CC (v. 20, 21, etc.).     I have a series of simple questions about simply staying put with the hardware and software I current still use.   So far I have managed to avoid a subscription to CC.

To wit: I am running MacOS X (10.13.6) and Photoshop CS6 (Licensed) on my eight year old iMac.  So far, so good.  Photoshop CS6 handles RAW files and I am also able to assemble large artwork through successive scans and the use of the Photomerge function.  In short, while everything still works for my purposes, and the Adobe Creative Cloud still supports RAW, eventually the hardware will wear out and I am concerned that CS6 (which already is 64-bit) might not be supported on newer hardware and might not even be supported currently on operating systems newer than High Sierra 10.13.6 (e.g. it might not be supported on 10.14 Mojave, 10.5 Catalina, nor on the new 11.0 Big Sur).

All that being said, is anyone able to run Photoshop CS6 on machines running 10.14 Mojave or 10.5 Catalina?    (All the foregoing being on Macs with Intel processors).  Lastly, though I am probably “jumping the gun” here, but has anyone been able to run Photoshop CS6 on any of the brand new Macs with M1 chips under Big Sur?

Thanks for any feedback.

Cheers,
Mike Rothman

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