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I like the microphone stand idea. It is a clean simple device, if you can find a phone mount to go on the end.
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Or a desk arm and a ballhead joint:
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From: SciArt-L Discussion List-for Natural Science Illustration- <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Karen Ackoff <[log in to unmask]>
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Date: Friday, December 4, 2020 at 5:28 PM
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Subject: Re: [SCIART] [EXTERNAL] Re: [SCIART] webcam advice please

Hi Marj et al.,

Thx for this info!

I was okay with the quality of the iPhone with EpocCam, I thought it was good (in my case), but the lag was unbelievable. Thankfully I tested it so didn't subject any students to it.

I have a gooseneck stand, but it’s very stiff and hard to adjust, especially on the fly. The manufacturer recommends looping the neck to help make a stable mount. This effectively shortens its range so it wasn’t much use to me. I am experimenting with an “elbow” mount - kind of like a desk lamp that clamps to the table. But I have a weighted base so I can move it around more. It does adjust nicely but not smoothly and is a bit cheap.

I’ve been considering some clamps that will clamp onto microphone stands (I have a spare), and allow you to mount a camera. This would have the advantage that the mic stand sits on the floor and wouldn’t shake with the table. Haven’t tried it yet.

Question for you… what is the advantage, for you, of the document camera, as opposed to a webcam?

I have a unique problem, given that I’m presbyopic. I work with my face really close to my work, so I can focus. Otherwise it is blurry and I can’t accomplish much. This can block a camera intended to show a close-up of the work being done. For teaching via Zoom or whatever, I’m going to have to layer reading glasses over my regular glasses or find some other work around. This can be an issue, even in the classroom, so if I’m measuring as part of a demo, I always warn students about my vision.

K


On Dec 4, 2020, at 3:49 PM, Marjorie Leggitt <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:

Hi All and Britt.

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Both have advantages and disadvantage. Good to have both options to choose from depending on how you teach.



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On Dec 4, 2020, at 11:11 AM, Griswold, Britt (GSFC-279.0)[LUSA Associates] <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:

If you want to use an iPhone as a live feed into something like Skype, I think you need a piece of software to make that connection. There are several out there about $10-25. I purchased the EpocCam software. I am not really satisfied with it, as it seems to still have bugs and would not consistently connect when I would expect it to.

If anyone had done it with native Mac software let me know.

Britt

From: SciArt-L Discussion List-for Natural Science Illustration- <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> on behalf of Dorie Petrochko <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
Reply-To: SciArt-L Discussion List-for Natural Science Illustration- <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
Date: Friday, December 4, 2020 at 8:32 AM
To: "[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>" <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [SCIART] webcam advice please

I ordered the IPEVO doc camera and was not happy with the resolution and lag time. I now use my IPhone for a document camera and it works better

On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 3:45 PM Jane Neroni <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
Hi Marlene,
I ordered the IPEVO and although they said there would be a six week wait I received it in three weeks.  Hope that also works for you.
Best,
Jane
On 12/03/2020 2:11 PM Marlene Donnelly <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:


Thanks so much, Marj!  I am currently using an Epson document camera, but it's anything but high definition-- I didn't know that was possible.  This sounds great.

Much appreciated,
Marlene

On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 12:54 PM Marjorie Leggitt < [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
Hi Marlene.

I have had GREAT success using the plug and play IPEVO V4K. This is the web camera Loe Ruttan recommended and demoed early in the COVID months. It’s an amazing little tool and incredibly easy to use. Great relolution, etc

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Hello all,
Hope you had a lovely, if small, Thanksgiving.

My Chicago Botanic Garden classes are finally going online (thank goodness) and I am scrambling--we had been told we'd be teaching online classes from the Garden with their superior equipment, but that just changed per the governor's order.

Can any of you wonderful experienced online instructors recommend a webcam that catches the detail that we need without being crazy expensive?  All advice much appreciated!

Thanks and stay safe,
Marlene

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