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Hi All,

I put out a survey a few months ago, re: unit tray sizes in collections.
Here are the results.

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spreadsheets_d_1QrbBZdci-2DEBckAUwBUdxWC9QLgBIdc4qovkJNxVHr18_edit-3Fusp-3Dsharing&d=DwIFaQ&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=-lUMCZ4RK28H4qvcd3vmEBuyVJHHG0OpDzFenR9wX-A&m=_i0ag5gdjg07q-3PtzfR5_cqif5CFmH_5HCIExpMKx4&s=-781lLOhhXXbgE-G-KIQdfyb3kUKP0Shforv4FRrbfk&e= 

Also, if you wanted to add to the survey, it's here
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_forms_d_e_1FAIpQLSe03tbs56R2P8aCunkJhCoVbyrU20pFOtw8arXc967td8Jv1g_viewform-3Fusp-3Dsf-5Flink&d=DwIFaQ&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=-lUMCZ4RK28H4qvcd3vmEBuyVJHHG0OpDzFenR9wX-A&m=_i0ag5gdjg07q-3PtzfR5_cqif5CFmH_5HCIExpMKx4&s=odWgVMcA9f0P6wv3t9e3KFftGx28VCLiXQbO7p6Uf6E&e= 

Chris, if you want, you can add this data to the ECN site!

Crystal

On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 4:54 AM Max Caspers <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

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> At Naturalis in the Netherlands we use two standards:
> - one for pinned specimens (either without unit trays for Lepidoptera or
> with for other insects) with two sizes of one type plastic unit trays
> - one for papered specimens (Odonata and Lepidoptera) with one type of
> cardboard unit trays
> I'll add the measurements in Chris' sheet later this week.
>
>
> On Sun, 3 Jan 2021 at 23:41, Max Barclay <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>> This is inextricably linked to the question 'what are the internal
>> dimensions of drawers used in collections' and the two need to be asked
>> together.
>>
>> In NHM London we use three sizes of drawer: 'standard lepidoptera' and
>> 'standard other orders' (because leps are essentially 'landscape' while
>> most other insects are 'portrait', and thus the leps get a drawer that is
>> wider than long, while other orders get a square drawer- ).
>>
>> The third size is called 'Rothschild' and is used for large leps,
>> saturniids, birdwings, morphos, sphingids- it is also more-or-less square
>> and very large format
>>
>> I can supply exact dimensions, but not right now
>>
>> Max
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Maxwell V. L. Barclay
>> Senior Curator in Charge
>> Insects: Coleoptera
>> Department of Life Sciences
>> Natural History Museum
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>> *From:* Entomological Collections Network Listserve <
>> [log in to unmask]> on behalf of Chris Grinter <
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>> *Sent:* 03 January 2021 22:13
>> *To:* [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
>> *Subject:* Re: which unit tray sizes are used in which collections?
>>
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>> Hi David,
>>
>> Great question, let’s crowdsource this into one location!
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>> Once we polish this up we can add to the ECN website.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Chris
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>>
>>
>> *Christopher C. Grinter *Collections Manager of Entomology, California
>> Academy of Sciences
>> President, Entomological Collections Network
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>> On Jan 3, 2021, at 1:43 PM, Maddison, David <
>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>> Hi ECN folk!
>>
>> I am working on sending back some borrowed material, and it makes sense
>> for me to send things back in the same size unit trays used by the
>> collections to which the material is being returned.  Because some of the
>> material has been in my care for long enough, in some cases the sands of
>> time have obscured the original unit trays the material was sent in.
>>
>> My question:  Is there a list anywhere of the unit tray sizes used
>> standardly in various collections?  Obviously Cornell uses Cornell, the Cal
>> Acad uses Cal Acad, and the USNM uses USNM, but others?  I remember a few
>> of them, but if a list exists relating collection to the unit trays they
>> use, I'd love to see it!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> David
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------------
>> David R. Maddison
>> Harold E. and Leona M. Rice Professor in Systematic Entomology
>> Director, Oregon State Arthropod Collection
>> Department of Integrative Biology
>> 3029 Cordley Hall
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>> Corvallis, OR  97331   USA
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