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Non-NU Email You might want to just try your phone first-- it's immediate and free! Obviously the quality you can get will depend entirely on your phone model. Another consideration is that document cameras need to point straight down and cover a small area-- if that suits your needs, great! If you need to demo from a stand easel, that's different. On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 7:42 PM Patricia Savage <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Non-NU Email > ------------------------------ > > I will probably eventually have to buy something of my own. Right now I > use Will's since he has to use it for teaching. I'm not totally thrilled > with the Logitech. So many in our group seem to really like this one, it > will probably be something I will definitely check out. I saved past emails > from everyone for when that day comes. > > Thanks! Hope you are doing well! > > Cheers, > Patricia Savage > > psavageart.com > 919-438-6766 > On 3/8/21 8:23 PM, Marjorie Leggitt wrote: > > Non-NU Email > ------------------------------ > Patrica. > > To piggyback on Marlene's email with a contrasting opinion... > > I've been using the IPEVO V4K ($99.00) for all my online Zoom classes. I > find it to be an excellent plug-and-play doc camera with easy functionality > - zoom, color adjustment, resolution, manual and automatic focus, snapshot, > etc. In a studio environment I find the colors to be accurate and I can > easily adjust them to the lighting situation. The application software > works perfectly with iMac and PC. I first used my iPhone and found the > frame area to be too narrow and cumbersome when I wanted to show my entire > working space plus, as Marlene mentioned, it required me to sign it in as a > separate user. That is not the case with the IPEVO. > > We all have our different "favorites". > > Marj > > Marjorie Leggitt > 303.394.0566 > [log in to unmask] > > Follow me on Instagram | @mcleggitt > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.instagram.com_mcleggitt_&d=DwMFaQ&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=AGYZ7-AeerjxzYnIwL-lBLFI3SPYN3BDmku4qGQB4Tg&m=lJqo8ztFdh8faN7UM4Rd9iuDYuzTc38dsAyWywTViE8&s=stDPOjC4oRTFVGDzAFPqQUe4xT6AoqFZiP8f_kuPGO0&e=> > Website | marjorieleggitt.com > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.marjorieleggitt.com_&d=DwMFaQ&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=AGYZ7-AeerjxzYnIwL-lBLFI3SPYN3BDmku4qGQB4Tg&m=lJqo8ztFdh8faN7UM4Rd9iuDYuzTc38dsAyWywTViE8&s=uLYg1Rbp57fKl_kiq5SkgS6nJ8vQZ8w6G8YxRQfb9so&e=> > Website | science-art.com/leggitt > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.science-2Dart.com_member_-3Fid-3D57-23.YBjvJ3dKhBy&d=DwMFaQ&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=AGYZ7-AeerjxzYnIwL-lBLFI3SPYN3BDmku4qGQB4Tg&m=lJqo8ztFdh8faN7UM4Rd9iuDYuzTc38dsAyWywTViE8&s=yKMLY7K0FTNwnrwzujq44YKcOh22rx0CaD3h8kgIBeg&e=> > > Interested in taking art classes? > Check out my workshops and courses at marjorieleggitt.com > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.marjorieleggitt.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=AGYZ7-AeerjxzYnIwL-lBLFI3SPYN3BDmku4qGQB4Tg&m=lJqo8ztFdh8faN7UM4Rd9iuDYuzTc38dsAyWywTViE8&s=BILfOB1lp3IaqX27HLM208Nxi8QNpLJu4kH3-OoK6V0&e=> > > On Mar 8, 2021, at 5:11 PM, Marlene Donnelly <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > > Non-NU Email > ------------------------------ > For my demo camera I'm using my IPhone 10 (which I had bought for its good > camera), and I'm very happy with it. You don't need any additional > software -- just sign into the meeting with both your computer and your > phone, and the phone becomes a second eye. You are not using it as a video > camera, just another portal. > > I need to adjust the exposure for this purpose. You need a holder stand, > available cheap from Amazon. > > I had started out using document cameras, first an Epson and then the > IPEVO. The IPEVO was great for black and white but awful for color so I > had to find something else. Also, the phone can cover a much larger area > if needed. > Marlene > > On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 12:11 PM Patricia Savage <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > >> Non-NU Email >> ------------------------------ >> Oh, cool, had not thought of using binoculars for viewing works in >> progress! I will add that in. We hope to start this in the fall to give >> ourselves a good loonngg learning curve. Kate and I have a harder time with >> technology than Kathy. By the fall, I hope that most of us will be safer. >> >> If anyone has ideas for software and cameras, that would be most helpful. >> >> Patricia Savage >> P_savageart.com >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__p-5Fsavageart.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=AGYZ7-AeerjxzYnIwL-lBLFI3SPYN3BDmku4qGQB4Tg&m=lJqo8ztFdh8faN7UM4Rd9iuDYuzTc38dsAyWywTViE8&s=ygLqrTUAN-P_-VqnaMhcItVsVdqVciA2JtrS9lOdf5g&e=> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Mar 8, 2021, at 12:47 PM, Griswold, Britt (GSFC-279.0)[LUSA >> Associates] <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >> >> Non-NU Email >> ------------------------------ >> >> Marlene, >> >> >> >> I am wonder what hardware you are using for video and sound when teaching >> to both in person and online students simultaneously? >> >> >> >> Britt >> >> >> >> *From: *SciArt-L Discussion List-for Natural Science Illustration- < >> [log in to unmask]> on behalf of Marlene Donnelly < >> [log in to unmask]> >> *Reply-To: *SciArt-L Discussion List-for Natural Science Illustration- < >> [log in to unmask]> >> *Date: *Monday, March 8, 2021 at 12:18 PM >> *To: *"[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]> >> *Subject: *Re: [SCIART] [EXTERNAL] [SCIART] Red text printing in both >> red and black >> >> >> >> Non-NU Email >> ------------------------------ >> >> Hi Patricia, >> >> Yes, CBG has been doing this for some time, particularly for courses that >> use outdoor areas of the Garden: field sketching in the woods etc.. It >> seems to be working fine and is well received. On site classes are not >> recorded. You need to have a plan for meeting places for outdoor classes >> and for weather issues-- we are just having alternative rain dates. >> >> >> >> While the Garden is taking every precaution indoors, I'm still >> pretty paranoid and insisting on outdoor meeting places. I got a pair >> of Pentax Papilios binoculars (recommended by several people from this >> wonderful group) that focus very close: these are a great safe-distance >> teaching aid. They work so well I intend to keep using them permanently. >> My regular birding binocs claim 6' focusing but it's actually a bit farther >> away, which gives a poor angle on student work. >> >> >> >> For me, Zoom classes had a bit of a learning curve (not entirely >> over;))-- alternating with outdoor classes isn't a problem. >> >> >> >> Hope this helps-- please let me know if you have any questions. >> >> Marlene >> >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 8:47 AM Patricia Savage <[log in to unmask]> >> wrote: >> >> Non-NU Email >> ------------------------------ >> >> Thanks, Kathy. I will check in with Marlene. >> >> >> >> Thank-you Karen for your always wonderful, helpful advice. This gives me >> a place to begin. >> >> Patricia Savage >> >> P_savageart.com >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__p-5Fsavageart.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=AGYZ7-AeerjxzYnIwL-lBLFI3SPYN3BDmku4qGQB4Tg&m=lJqo8ztFdh8faN7UM4Rd9iuDYuzTc38dsAyWywTViE8&s=ygLqrTUAN-P_-VqnaMhcItVsVdqVciA2JtrS9lOdf5g&e=> >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> >> >> On Mar 8, 2021, at 1:14 AM, Kathleen Garness <[log in to unmask]> >> wrote: >> >> Non-NU Email >> ------------------------------ >> >> Yes, I think the Chicago Botanic Garden is doing something like this. I >> wonder whether Marlene Donnelley has more specifics? >> >> >> >> Kathy Garness >> >> >> >> On Mar 7, 2021, at 9:39 PM, Karen Ackoff < >> [log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >> >> >> Non-NU Email >> ------------------------------ >> >> Patricia, >> >> Hybrid courses are quite common, especially as schools are beginning to >> resume face-to-face classes. Because social distancing is still observed, >> which means fewer students in the classroom, class presentations can be >> done face-to-face and online, with appropriate hardware (cameras) and >> software (zoom or other conferencing software, some cameras also come with >> software for zooming, picture-in-picture, etc.). It takes some planning and >> please understand this takes more time for the instructor to prepare as >> they are preparing for two formats and trying to find a good middle ground. >> The class can be recorded and made available for students to review on >> their own time. If this is done, there should be a set amount of time the >> recordings are available, such when the class winds up, a week or two after >> or whatever is deemed best. >> >> K >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >> On Mar 7, 2021, at 9:19 PM, Patricia Savage <[log in to unmask]> >> wrote: >> >> Non-NU Email >> ------------------------------ >> >> Hi All, >> >> The botanical garden is contemplating trying out classes that combine >> face to face with online. Does anyone have any experience in how this is >> done or can it be done? Any thoughts would be deeply appreciated. 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